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Hi again. Actually there is a solution here and it is dead simple. The IDV on OS X is started by this shell script (run_script) buried in IDV.app. Here is that script: ##!/bin/sh cd /Applications/IDV_5.0u2 /Applications/IDV_5.0u2/runIDV I simply changed it to this: #!/bin/sh cd /Applications/IDV_5.0u2 /Applications/IDV_5.0u2/runIDV & exit 0 With the ampersand, the IDV runs in the background with two benefits. 1/ You can start multiple instances of the IDV. 2/ You can *kill* multiple instances of the IDV without messing up Yosemite. Try the nightly build! -Julien > Wow, these system level considerations are bcoming quite time consuming. > Sorry. > > > I got through yesterday by logging in as a dummy user on my machine. > Perhaps manual launch in a Terminal would work too, but this was easy. > I slouch into the learned helplessness of the App age. > (and some users may be truly helpless, so it is worth making it work). > > > Thanks and keep up the good work! > > Brian > > > > > On Jan 22, 2015, at 1:03 PM, Unidata IDV Support <address@hidden> wrote: > > > Don and Brian, > > > > I think we may be conflating multiple issues here so let me describe each > > problem. > > > > Issue #1 > > > > On Yosemite and Mavericks, if you try to start the IDV more than once via > > the > > dock or icon, the second time will fail. On Mavericks the icon bounces > > until you > > kill the first instance (and never starts the second instance). On Yosemite > > the > > icon is in the dock and never goes away even if you kill the first instance. > > > > Issue #2 > > > > On top of Issue #1, an additional problem on Yosemite, is if you go to the > > Force > > Quit window, the IDV icon is there, but you cannot kill it nor does it show > > up > > in the process table or the Activity Monitor. Moreover, when you try to > > shutdown > > your Mac for the day, you can't because the Dock thinks the IDV is still > > running. Again, force quitting won't work and the IDV is not in any process > > table. Eventually I have to "sudo shutdown -h now" > > > > Problem #2 is a real pain in the neck. I have been researching and > > experimenting > > with various solutions. > > > > The run_script that is in the IDV.app has no "exit 0", but that makes no > > difference according to my tests. I tried starting the run_script via > > AppleScript, but that does not work either. > > > > At this point, I think we have a bug in Yosemite which I will try to > > minimally reproduce with a "shell script app", and send a bug report. > > > > That is where I am at. > > > > -Julien > > > > > >> Thanks. One more note about 5.0u2 on 10.9 - it doesn't hang the system > >> like it does on Yosemite, but it doesn't start a new one either. It > >> used to start a new instance, so I'm wondering if there's still > >> something else going on with 5.0u2. > >> > >> Don > >> > >> On 1/20/15 11:33 AM, Unidata IDV Support wrote: > >>> Don, > >>> > >>> Yes, I can confirm this. > >>> > >>> I am getting the message "You can’t open the application “IDV” because it > >>> is not > >>> responding." > >>> > >>> Poking around the Internet, you can find other applications having the > >>> same > >>> problems on yosemite, but I have yet to see a solution referenced. We > >>> will keep looking. > >>> Let us know if you find anything on your end. > >>> > >>> BTW, the workaround is to run the IDV (multiple times if you want) from > >>> the > >>> terminal. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> Unidata IDV Support > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hi- > >>>> > >>>> My desktop was upgraded to Yosemite (10.10.1) recently and I've also > >>>> upgraded to IDV 5.0u2. If I have the IDV running and try to start > >>>> another instance, the second instance does not start. However, even > >>>> after I exit the first instance, the icon in the dock has a dot under it > >>>> indicating that the IDV is running. If I go to the Force Quit.. > >>>> option, I see that IDV is listed, but I can't kill it. If I try to shut > >>>> my machine down, it won't do it because it says the IDV is running and I > >>>> have to close it first. > >>>> > >>>> So... > >>>> > >>>> - Can you recreate this problem on a Yosemite system? > >>>> - is there any other info I can give you? > >>>> > >>>> Thanks. > >>>> > >>>> Don > >>>> -- > >>>> Don Murray > >>>> NOAA/ESRL/PSD and CU-CIRES > >>>> 303-497-3596 > >>>> http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/people/don.murray/ > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Ticket Details > >>> =================== > >>> Ticket ID: XWP-701895 > >>> Department: Support IDV > >>> Priority: Normal > >>> Status: Open > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Don Murray > >> NOAA/ESRL/PSD and CU-CIRES > >> 303-497-3596 > >> http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/psd/people/don.murray/ > >> > >> > > > > > > Ticket Details > > =================== > > Ticket ID: XWP-701895 > > Department: Support IDV > > Priority: Normal > > Status: Open > > > > ********************************************* > Brian Mapes, Professor > Department of Atmospheric Sciences > Meteorology and Physical Oceanography Program > RSMAS, University of Miami > 4600 Rickenbacker Causeway > Miami, FL 33149-1098 > > phone: (305) 421-4275 > fax: (305) 421-4696 > email: address@hidden > Web: http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/bmapes/ > ********************************************** > > > > > Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: XWP-701895 Department: Support IDV Priority: Normal Status: Closed