uggh this is frustrating, but probably simple... rebooted my server after a mass of yum updates now ldm-6.11.4 acts like it starts, but doesn't -bash-4.1$ldmadmin start The product-queue is OK. Checking pqact(1) configuration-file(s)... /usr/local/ldm/etc/ddplus.conf: syntactically correct /usr/local/ldm/etc/pqact.conf: syntactically correct Checking LDM configuration-file (/usr/local/ldm/etc/ldmd.conf)... Starting the LDM server... -bash-4.1$ ldmadmin watch There is no LDM server running -- ----------------------------------------------------- -Jeff Lake K8JSL MichiganWxSystem.com AllisonHouse.com TheWeatherCenter.net GRLevelXStuff.com