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[IDV #MKR-443485]: stereo support on idv 5.0

Subject: [IDV #MKR-443485]: stereo support on idv 5.0
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:03:16 -0600
Hi Al,

My current working hypothesis is that the version of Java, Java 8 u 51,
currently distributed with the IDV nightly is the source of the problems you are
seeing. I've moved back the version to Java 8 u 45.

Please download and install the nightly

www.unidata.ucar.edu/downloads/idv/nightly/index.jsp

When you go to the Help --> About, System Tab, the Java version should be:
1.8.0_45.

In short, this version should both run on Windows 10 and also still enable the
stereo display.

Please keep us up-to-date on your progress.

Best,

Unidata IDV Support

> Hi Support,
> 5.3 stable installs and runs fine on the windows 10 machine (but no stereo
> function; still need to go back to 4.1 for that capability on my Windows 10
> platform).
> -Al Hermann
> 
> address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> > Hi Al,
> >
> > Thanks for your continued patience. It is difficult for me to diagnose this
> > problem remotely, so if you don't mind, please try 5.3 stable:
> >
> > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/downloads/idv/current/index.jsp
> >
> > What is the result? That will help me better narrow what is going on.
> >
> > Please keep us up-to-date on your progress.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Unidata IDV Support
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi support,
> > >
> > > Version 5.2 installs and runs fine on my Windows 10 machine (I haven't
> > > tried stereo with it, but the standard version definitely works)
> > >
> > > -Al Hermann
> > >
> > > address@hidden> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Al,
> > > >
> > > > At this point, I am at a loss to explain what you are seeing. The next
> > > > test I
> > > > would suggest is to try earlier versions of the IDV. For example:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/downloads/idv/5_2/index.jsp
> > > >
> > > > Please keep us up-to-date on your progress.
> > > >
> > > > Best,
> > > >
> > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi support,
> > > > >
> > > > > Still no luck.
> > > > >
> > > > > I uninstalled my existing version of IDV 5.3u1 and  moved the
> > existing
> > > > > .unidata folder to my desktop, then downloaded the latest 64-bit
> > windows
> > > > > nightly build. In my case installation to the default ProgramFiles
> > > > location
> > > > > is infeasible (due to our IT security restrictions), so instead I
> > install
> > > > > to \Users\hermann\Applications. Installation goes smoothly, but when
> > I
> > > > try
> > > > > to open via the IDV5.3u1 icon (or by directly clicking on the .bat
> > > > file), I
> > > > > still get hung at the stage of "Loading Defaults". When I try to open
> > > > > Help->About to see the java version, IDV freezes, and I need to
> > manually
> > > > > kill the java process.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any more insights appreciated. Is the fact that I am installing in a
> > > > > non-standard location relevant to this problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Al Hermann
> > > > >
> > > > > address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Al,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am surprised you are having trouble with the latest nightly
> > 5.3u1 on
> > > > > > Windows
> > > > > > 10 so I'm try to eliminate any source of uncertainty from my point
> > of
> > > > > > view. The
> > > > > > .unidata directory is where IDV settings are saved and is
> > persistent
> > > > from
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > installation of the IDV to the next. But in some situations, they
> > can
> > > > > > interfere
> > > > > > with proper running of the IDV. I could have told you to delete the
> > > > > > .unidata
> > > > > > directory but you may have settings therein you wish to keep. So,
> > if
> > > > > > possible,
> > > > > > please move or delete that .unidata (call it unidata.bak, or
> > something)
> > > > > > directory. Download the latest nightly IDV, and start the IDV on
> > that
> > > > > > Windows 10
> > > > > > system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please keep us up-to-date on your progress.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Could you clarify what you mean by "move the .unidata directory
> > out
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > way"?
> > > > > > > I do see that directory in my \Users\hermann folder; should I
> > move it
> > > > > > > somewhere else?
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > -Al Hermann
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Al,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That's good news about 3d stereo. Thanks for letting us know.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I am surprised by what you are saying concerning 5.3u1 and
> > Windows
> > > > 10.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > thought
> > > > > > > > this issue was resolved (if it is the same issue I am thinking
> > of).
> > > > > > Can you
> > > > > > > > double check a few things for me. Please make sure you are
> > > > downloading
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > latest 5.3u1 nightly
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > www.unidata.ucar.edu/downloads/idv/nightly/index.jsp
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Also on your window 10 system please move your .unidata
> > directory
> > > > out
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the way
> > > > > > > > which should be in \Users\<username>.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When you go to the Help --> About, System Tab, the Java version
> > > > should
> > > > > > be:
> > > > > > > > 1.8.0_51.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please keep us up-to-date on your progress.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > You are correct, I really meant version 5.3u1.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, stereo is working again - this was great news for me as
> > > > well,
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > get to use new features such as the improved interactive
> > float
> > > > > > tracking
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the immersive environment.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I did try the nightly build just now, and it still hangs on
> > my
> > > > > > Windows 10
> > > > > > > > > machine - that is, it installs, but when I try to start IDV,
> > it
> > > > > > hangs at
> > > > > > > > > the "loading defaults" stage.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I just submitted a proposal to NOAA, to work on blending
> > > > immersive
> > > > > > IDV
> > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > GPU-accelerated float tracking via Jython. We'll see if
> > they're
> > > > > > > > interested!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > Al Hermann
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Al,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I was out of the country when you last wrote. First a
> > point of
> > > > > > > > > > clarification. You mention "3.5u1" but you really mean
> > 5.3u1,
> > > > > > correct?
> > > > > > > > Also
> > > > > > > > > > confirming that stereo is working for you again. Is that
> > true?
> > > > If
> > > > > > so,
> > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > be a long standing issue that is resolved so that would be
> > a
> > > > piece
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > news. Lastly, please also try the 5.3u1 nightly release on
> > your
> > > > > > > > Windows 10
> > > > > > > > > > system.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Please keep us up-to-date on your progress.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi support,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am still finding that the latest version of IDV will
> > not
> > > > run
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > > desktop (but runs just fine on my laptop).
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > My desktop machine is indeed Windows 10 Enterprise
> > (with
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > Anniversary
> > > > > > > > > > > > Update, the one with native bash shell support), and
> > has
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > following
> > > > > > > > > > > > graphics cards installed:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Nvidia Quadro K6000
> > > > > > > > > > > > Nvidia Quadro K620
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The good news is that your latest build (3.5u1)
> > renders in
> > > > > > > > > > frame-flipping
> > > > > > > > > > > > stereo on my laptop (the one I use for portable stereo
> > > > > > display).
> > > > > > > > So,
> > > > > > > > > > thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > for that upgrade! I am now enjoying the latest features
> > > > with
> > > > > > > > immersive
> > > > > > > > > > > > viewing.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Al Hermann
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > We did upgrade the Java version to Java 8 u51. There are
> > some
> > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > > > between latest Java with the Java 3D, so we pick one
> > earlier
> > > > > > version.
> > > > > > > > > > > However, we don't have any solution for your desktop win
> > 10.
> > > > You
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > try
> > > > > > > > > > later to find out any improvement on the Win OS situation.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yuan
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Al,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > After doing quite a bit of research you have
> > > > unfortunately
> > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > into a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > unrelated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > problem that we are ourselves coming to terms with.
> > In
> > > > > > > > particular,
> > > > > > > > > > the IDV
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (nightly) will not run under certain combinations of
> > > > Windows
> > > > > > 10
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > older
> > > > > > > > > > > > > hardware.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > If possible can you describe your hardware in some
> > > > detail.
> > > > > > > > > > Specifically,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > graphics card is installed on your system. Can you
> > also
> > > > tell
> > > > > > us
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > graphics cards on your computer? Your system was
> > probably
> > > > > > > > upgraded to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Windows 10
> > > > > > > > > > > > > at some point. Is this true?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Support,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I downloaded the nightly build and installed on my
> > > > machine
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > open, whether stereo=True or False (it gets part
> > way
> > > > there
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > hangs on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Loading Defaults" phase).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Al
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Unidata IDV
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Al,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We recently updated the version of Java 3D
> > > > distributed
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > IDV.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you mind testing the nightly build:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/
> > > > downloads/idv/nightly/index.
> > > > > > jsp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If that does not work, you can try the IDV
> > nightly
> > > > with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > visad.jar
> > > > > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested (unsuccessfully) earlier.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is a standard method for stereo display,
> > where
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > monitor/projector
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > flips at, say, 120 Hz between the left-eye's
> > view
> > > > and
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > right-eye's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > view
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of a scene. The viewer wears "active"
> > > > shutterglasses,
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > obscure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > left and right eye in synchrony with the
> > monitor's
> > > > > > display
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (synchronized
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > through an infrared emitter, in my case;  I use
> > > > > > nVidia's
> > > > > > > > > > 3Dvision
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hardware). This creates the illusion of stereo
> > > > viewing.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Al Hermann
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Unidata IDV
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Al,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain what "frame-flipping stereo"
> > is?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apart from that, I will bring this topic up
> > at
> > > > our
> > > > > > next
> > > > > > > > > > telecon
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SSEC.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Support,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip, but I get the same
> > result
> > > > as
> > > > > > > > before,
> > > > > > > > > > that is,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IDV 5.3
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > opens but yields no frame-flipping stereo.
> > I
> > > > did
> > > > > > > > install
> > > > > > > > > > IDV 4.1
> > > > > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > latest Windows10 desktop (with it's
> > embedded
> > > > > > > > vidad.jar),
> > > > > > > > > > and it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > works
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fine
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in stereo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any more suggestions are most welcome.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Al Hermann
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Unidata IDV
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Al,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a huge shot in the dark since I
> > have
> > > > no
> > > > > > > > hardware
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > test
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and even if I did, I may not have any
> > other
> > > > > > ideas,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > here
> > > > > > > > > > > > > goes.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > URL,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://motherlode.ucar.edu/
> > > > > > > > > > repository/entry/show?entryid=
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 484d181e-5358-4453-8166-cb6b191d31a2
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you will find a visad.jar file. This is a
> > > > one-off
> > > > > > > > > > visad.jar
> > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > replaces
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Canvas3D with the WrappedCanvas3D
> > referenced
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > forum
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > download that file and the latest stable
> > > > version
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > IDV.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Once
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IDV
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > been installed, inside the IDV directory
> > > > > > (wherever
> > > > > > > > it was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > installed)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find a visad.jar. Please replace that
> > > > visad.jar
> > > > > > file
> > > > > > > > > > with the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > downloaded.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At this point, make the modifications to
> > the
> > > > > > runIDV
> > > > > > > > > > script to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stereo. (I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > assume you know how to do this since you
> > do
> > > > it
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > 4.1.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What happens???
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! I have continued to use
> > immersive
> > > > 3D
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > IDV
> > > > > > > > > > 4.1 for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scientific
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > outreach at high schools, museums and
> > > > > > conferences,
> > > > > > > > > > through a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > portable
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > system (laptop, external graphics card
> > > > > > enclosure,
> > > > > > > > 3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > projector,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shutterglasses). It is a great outreach
> > > > tool,
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > > > > > grabs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > attention of the audience. It would be
> > > > great to
> > > > > > > > deploy
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > latest
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of IDV 5 (the enhanced float tracking
> > > > > > capabilities
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > particular) on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > portable immersive system.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Al Hermann
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 7:27 AM,
> > Unidata IDV
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Al,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We will bring this topic up at our
> > next
> > > > > > > > Unidata/SSEC
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > teleconference to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the workaround suggested in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forum.jogamp.org/
> > > > > > > > Java3D-stereo-td4029914i20.
> > > > > > > > > > html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > can be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > incorporated into
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > VisAD.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi support,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the prompt response.
> > Does
> > > > this
> > > > > > mean
> > > > > > > > > > that you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > testing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those workarounds, or is it up to
> > the
> > > > user
> > > > > > > > (me) to
> > > > > > > > > > test
> > > > > > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (and if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this feasible with the present
> > > > download of
> > > > > > > > IDV)? I
> > > > > > > > > > am not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > conversant
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > java myself, but may have some
> > local
> > > > > > colleagues
> > > > > > > > > > who could
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > help me
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > decipher
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the process.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Al Hermann
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:45 AM,
> > > > Unidata
> > > > > > IDV
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > address@hidden>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Al,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Java 3D API, currently
> > > > maintained in
> > > > > > > > limited
> > > > > > > > > > > > > capacity
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best),
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fewer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and fewer open-source
> > contributors
> > > > as the
> > > > > > > > years
> > > > > > > > > > pass.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > am
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > terribly optimistic this will
> > ever
> > > > see
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > light
> > > > > > > > > > of day
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nevertheless, the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mailing list thread referenced
> > below
> > > > does
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > some new
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > information
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > concerning
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this topic as of last year though
> > > > > > requiring
> > > > > > > > > > workarounds
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tested with the IDV.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi IDV support,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just checking in again on the
> > IDV
> > > > > > stereo
> > > > > > > > > > issue. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > downloaded the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > latest version (IDV 5.3), but
> > still
> > > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > stereo to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > work. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get stereo using IDV 4.1, but
> > no
> > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > functioned
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > correctly in stereo mode. Has
> > there
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > > > > > progress on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J3D
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > front?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your support.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Al Hermann
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:57
> > AM,
> > > > > > Unidata
> > > > > > > > IDV
> > > > > > > > > > Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > address@hidden>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Albert,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry about that.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Overly liberal use of copy
> > and
> > > > paste.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi support,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks much for pursuing
> > this.
> > > > Just
> > > > > > > > noting
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brett
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (but I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > he is another user
> > interested
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > > issue)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Al Hermann
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at
> > 3:54
> > > > PM,
> > > > > > > > Unidata
> > > > > > > > > > IDV
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > address@hidden>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brett,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As I understand this
> > issue,
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > > lies
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bugs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > java.awt. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > posted messages to the
> > Java
> > > > 3D
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > awt-dev
> > > > > > > > > > > > > lists
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hoping to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > revive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and ultimately find a
> > > > solution.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pipermail/awt-dev/2014-
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > December/008787.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://forum.jogamp.org/
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Java3D-stereo-td4029914.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata IDV Support
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello IDV support,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am a longtime fan of
> > > > idv, and
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > frequently
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > used
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stereo-immersive
> > rendering
> > > > of
> > > > > > > > surfaces
> > > > > > > > > > via
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Windows
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PC. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recently
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > downloaded version
> > 5.02 of
> > > > > > idv, and
> > > > > > > > > > found the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stereo
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > feature
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > longer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works. I have used the
> > same
> > > > > > > > procedure
> > > > > > > > > > as in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > prior
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > versions,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enableStereo=true in
> > the
> > > > > > idv.bat
> > > > > > > > file.
> > > > > > > > > > My
> > > > > > > > > > > > > older
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (idv
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.1)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > continues
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to work well in
> > stereo, so
> > > > I
> > > > > > am not
> > > > > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > what has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > changed. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > did
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the recent archives
> > that
> > > > IDV
> > > > > > > > support
> > > > > > > > > > stated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > following:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the enableStereo
> > > > > > information is
> > > > > > > > > > passed to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the J3d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > layer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much control
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the IDV interface."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this broken feature
> > an
> > > > > > obscure
> > > > > > > > java
> > > > > > > > > > 3d
> > > > > > > > > > > > > issue?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For the time being I
> > will
> > > > > > continue
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 4.1,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > course
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > upgrade if stereo can
> > be
> > > > fixed
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > 5.0
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for any
> > additional
> > > > > > > > information
> > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggested
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fixes.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Al Hermann
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ticket Details
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===================
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ticket ID: MKR-443485
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Department: Support IDV
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Priority: Normal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: Open
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ticket Details
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===================
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ticket ID: MKR-443485
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Department: Support IDV
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Priority: Normal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: Closed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > address@hidden
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pacific Marine Environmental
> > > > Laboratory
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7600 Sand Point Way NE
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seattle WA 98115
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > Unidata
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: Open
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> > Unidata
> > > > User
> > > > > > > > Support
> > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recorded
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata inquiry tracking system and
> > then
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> > each
> > > > email
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> > > > > > > > > > send to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > us.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Department: Support IDV
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: Open
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> > User
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> > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > recorded
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata inquiry tracking system and then
> > made
> > > > > > > > publicly
> > > > > > > > > > > > > available
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> > email
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> > > > > > > > send to
> > > > > > > > > > us.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7600 Sand Point Way NE
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> > > > Support
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > recorded
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made
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> > you
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: Open
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> > Support
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > recorded
> > > > > > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made
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> > > > > > us.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Status: Open
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> > are
> > > > > > recorded
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > the
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> > publicly
> > > > > > available
> > > > > > > > > > through
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Seattle WA 98115
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > Department: Support IDV
> > > > > > > > > > Priority: Urgent
> > > > > > > > > > Status: Closed
> > > > > > > > > > ===================
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> > > > recorded
> > > > > > in the
> > > > > > > > > > Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made publicly
> > > > available
> > > > > > > > through
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> > > > > > > > > Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory
> > > > > > > > > 7600 Sand Point Way NE
> > > > > > > > > Seattle WA 98115
> > > > > > > > > 206-526-6495
> > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > Department: Support IDV
> > > > > > > > Priority: Urgent
> > > > > > > > Status: Closed
> > > > > > > > ===================
> > > > > > > > NOTE: All email exchanges with Unidata User Support are
> > recorded
> > > > in the
> > > > > > > > Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made publicly
> > available
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > address@hidden
> > > > > > > Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory
> > > > > > > 7600 Sand Point Way NE
> > > > > > > Seattle WA 98115
> > > > > > > 206-526-6495
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> > > > > > Department: Support IDV
> > > > > > Priority: Urgent
> > > > > > Status: Closed
> > > > > > ===================
> > > > > > NOTE: All email exchanges with Unidata User Support are recorded
> > in the
> > > > > > Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made publicly available
> > > > through
> > > > > > the web.  If you do not want to have your interactions made
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > Seattle WA 98115
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ticket Details
> > > > ===================
> > > > Ticket ID: MKR-443485
> > > > Department: Support IDV
> > > > Priority: Urgent
> > > > Status: Closed
> > > > ===================
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> > > >
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> > >
> > >
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> > > address@hidden
> > > Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory
> > > 7600 Sand Point Way NE
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> > > 206-526-6495
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > Ticket Details
> > ===================
> > Ticket ID: MKR-443485
> > Department: Support IDV
> > Priority: Urgent
> > Status: Closed
> > ===================
> > NOTE: All email exchanges with Unidata User Support are recorded in the
> > Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made publicly available through
> > the web.  If you do not want to have your interactions made available in
> > this way, you must let us know in each email you send to us.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Priority: Urgent
Status: Open
===================
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