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Hello (Steve?), As of the Jan 4 6Z runs, I've been unable to initialize the WRF model using the CONDUIT ETA212 grib files (or the GFS). It appears that the problem is that the files since the 4th, the times are out of order in the file and the WRF Standard Initialization can't handle that. Previously, the grib file fieldswould be ordered in time. Gempak decoding works fine however. I recall that ncep was going to fool with the way files were put into the CONDUIT stream. So is this a problem with the WRFSI or with NCEP? In the mean time, is there a simple way to reorder the grib files? Thanks. Mike (I will also send this message to the WRF people.) Some examples: a file from this summer: 1474:35553794:d=04072200:SPFH:kpds5=51:kpds6=100:kpds7=425:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:425 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1475:35577752:d=04072200:UGRD:kpds5=33:kpds6=100:kpds7=425:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:425 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1476:35604694:d=04072200:VGRD:kpds5=34:kpds6=100:kpds7=425:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:425 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1477:35631636:d=04072200:TKE:kpds5=158:kpds6=100:kpds7=425:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:425 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1478:35652612:d=04072200:CLWMR:kpds5=153:kpds6=100:kpds7=425:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:425 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1479:35673588:d=04072200:CICE:kpds5=58:kpds6=100:kpds7=425:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:425 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1480:35691580:d=04072200:HGT:kpds5=7:kpds6=100:kpds7=450:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:450 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1481:35730454:d=04072200:TMP:kpds5=11:kpds6=100:kpds7=450:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:450 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1482:35754412:d=04072200:RH:kpds5=52:kpds6=100:kpds7=450:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:450 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1483:35775388:d=04072200:SPFH:kpds5=51:kpds6=100:kpds7=450:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:450 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1484:35799346:d=04072200:UGRD:kpds5=33:kpds6=100:kpds7=450:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:450 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1485:35826288:d=04072200:VGRD:kpds5=34:kpds6=100:kpds7=450:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:450 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1486:35853230:d=04072200:TKE:kpds5=158:kpds6=100:kpds7=450:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:450 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1487:35874206:d=04072200:CLWMR:kpds5=153:kpds6=100:kpds7=450:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:450 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 1488:35901148:d=04072200:CICE:kpds5=58:kpds6=100:kpds7=450:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:450 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 A file from today: 861:21427952:d=05010912:TKE:kpds5=158:kpds6=100:kpds7=75:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:75 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 862:21451910:d=05010912:HGT:kpds5=7:kpds6=100:kpds7=525:TR=0:P1=3:P2=0:TimeU=1:525 mb:3hr fcst:NAve=0 863:21490784:d=05010912:HGT:kpds5=7:kpds6=100:kpds7=875:TR=0:P1=0:P2=0:TimeU=1:875 mb:anl:NAve=0 864:21526676:d=05010912:CICE:kpds5=58:kpds6=100:kpds7=75:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:75 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 865:21547652:d=05010912:LFTX:kpds5=131:kpds6=101:kpds7=12900:TR=0:P1=9:P2=0:TimeU=1:500-1000 mb:9hr fcst:NAve=0 866:21571610:d=05010912:TMP:kpds5=11:kpds6=100:kpds7=525:TR=0:P1=3:P2=0:TimeU=1:525 mb:3hr fcst:NAve=0 867:21598552:d=05010912:LAND:kpds5=81:kpds6=1:kpds7=0:TR=0:P1=9:P2=0:TimeU=1:sfc:9hr fcst:NAve=0 868:21601630:d=05010912:HGT:kpds5=7:kpds6=100:kpds7=100:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:100 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 869:21643488:d=05010912:RH:kpds5=52:kpds6=100:kpds7=525:TR=0:P1=3:P2=0:TimeU=1:525 mb:3hr fcst:NAve=0 870:21664464:d=05010912:TMP:kpds5=11:kpds6=100:kpds7=875:TR=0:P1=0:P2=0:TimeU=1:875 mb:anl:NAve=0 871:21691406:d=05010912:SPFH:kpds5=51:kpds6=100:kpds7=525:TR=0:P1=3:P2=0:TimeU=1:525 mb:3hr fcst:NAve=0 872:21715364:d=05010912:PRES:kpds5=1:kpds6=109:kpds7=1:TR=0:P1=9:P2=0:TimeU=1:hybrid lev 1:9hr fcst:NAve=0 873:21739322:d=05010912:TMP:kpds5=11:kpds6=100:kpds7=100:TR=0:P1=6:P2=0:TimeU=1:100 mb:6hr fcst:NAve=0 874:21763280:d=05010912:RH:kpds5=52:kpds6=100:kpds7=875:TR=0:P1=0:P2=0:TimeU=1:875 mb:anl:NAve=0 -- Mike Leuthold Atmospheric Sciences/Institute of Atmospheric Physics University of Arizona address@hidden 520-621-2863 "Is there some difference between the despotism of the monarch and the despotism of the multitude?" Edmund Burke