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Hi Pete, One more follow up. I think it still may be possible to download Python2 manually, and then CAVE should work. I guess before asking you to do this, do you use Python for other things on this Mac? I know there have been issues in the past with multiple versions of Python on the same machine and I want to double check if you currently use Python for other things. To download Python2, you should be able to use the 64 bit mac installer from here: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-2718/ Let me know if you would like to try this. Thanks. --Shay Carter She/Her/Hers AWIPS Software Engineer UCAR - Unidata If you're interested, please feel free to fill out a survey about the support you receive: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeDIkdk8qUMgq8ZdM4jhP-ubJPUOr-mJMQgxInwoAWoV5QcOw/viewform Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: RGM-945173 Department: Support AWIPS Priority: Normal Status: Open =================== NOTE: All email exchanges with Unidata User Support are recorded in the Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made publicly available through the web. If you do not want to have your interactions made available in this way, you must let us know in each email you send to us.