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Hi Roy, This might take a bit. If we look at the time range on the "Best" collection, we get: Start: 2013-02-21T00:00:00Z End: 2017-12-09T06:00:00Z However, if we look at the time range on the "latest" (201712), we get: Start: 2017-12-01T00:00:00Z End: 2017-12-04T18:00:00Z It's not clear where anything after 2017-12-04T18:00:00Z is coming from, but I think I have a way of tracking it down if it isn't a bug (again, it will just take a bit of time). Cheers, Sean On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal <address@hidden> wrote: > Okay the TwoD datasets are showing. I still see the same issue with the last > time. Can easily send you sample data if that would help. > > -ROy > >> On Dec 6, 2017, at 11:38 AM, Sean Arms <address@hidden> wrote: >> >> Hmmm. Can you try removing the ncx files to force the TDM to regenerate >> them? Both the TDS and TDM will need to be restarted. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Sean >> >> On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 12:17 PM Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal >> <address@hidden> wrote: >> Adding that appears to have sent that dataset into never-neverland. Now I >> get no response. DOn't see an error in the log file either. >> >> -Roy >> >> > On Dec 6, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Sean Arms <address@hidden> wrote: >> > >> > Greetings Roy, >> > >> > Sorry for the delay - I've been in a teleconference all morning. >> > >> > So the TDS may be picking up on the fact that some of those records >> > are encoded as forecasts. That's possible, and I'll keep that in mind. >> > >> > The xml snippet should look like this (change made to first line to add >> > TwoD): >> > >> > <gribConfig datasetTypes="TwoD Best LatestFile"> >> > <pdsHash> >> > <useTableVersion>false</useTableVersion> >> > </pdsHash> >> > </gribConfig> >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > Sean >> > >> > On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Roy Mendelssohn - NOAA Federal >> > <address@hidden> wrote: >> >> BTW - I should add that the 1-degree data is a special run that they do >> >> for us, and the way I understand it in their processing terms the 00 and >> >> 12 files are considered real-time, while the 06 and 18 files are >> >> considered "forecasts". They have different filenames because of that, >> >> for example: >> >> >> >> US058GMET-GR1mdl.0018_0240_00000F0RL2017120400_0102_000000-000000pres >> >> US058GMET-GR1mdl.0018_0240_00000F0OF2017120418_0102_000000-000000pres >> >> >> >> That is why in the regex for the time I have to skip two spaces. In case >> >> this info helps any: >> >> >> >> wgrib -V >> >> US058GMET-GR1mdl.0018_0240_00000F0RL2017120400_0102_000000-000000pres >> >> rec 1:21:date 2017120400 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=102 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0) >> >> grid=240 MSL anl: >> >> PRMSL=Pressure reduced to MSL [Pa] >> >> timerange 0 P1 0 P2 0 TimeU 1 nx 360 ny 181 GDS grid 0 num_in_ave 0 >> >> missing 0 >> >> center 58 subcenter 0 process 18 Table 2 scan: WE:SN winds(N/S) >> >> latlon: lat -90.000000 to 90.000000 by 1.000000 nxny 65160 >> >> long 0.000000 to -1.000000 by 1.000000, (360 x 181) scan 64 mode >> >> 128 bdsgrid 1 >> >> min/max data 95236 104736 num bits 10 BDS_Ref 9523.6 DecScale -1 >> >> BinScale 0 >> >> >> >> wgrib -V >> >> US058GMET-GR1mdl.0018_0240_00000F0OF2017120418_0102_000000-000000pres >> >> rec 1:0:date 2017120418 PRMSL kpds5=2 kpds6=102 kpds7=0 levels=(0,0) >> >> grid=240 MSL anl: >> >> PRMSL=Pressure reduced to MSL [Pa] >> >> timerange 0 P1 0 P2 0 TimeU 1 nx 360 ny 181 GDS grid 0 num_in_ave 0 >> >> missing 0 >> >> center 58 subcenter 0 process 18 Table 3 scan: WE:SN winds(N/S) >> >> latlon: lat -90.000000 to 90.000000 by 1.000000 nxny 65160 >> >> long 0.000000 to -1.000000 by 1.000000, (360 x 181) scan 64 mode >> >> 128 bdsgrid 1 >> >> min/max data 94770 104260 num bits 10 BDS_Ref 9477 DecScale -1 >> >> BinScale 0 >> >> >> >> >> >> BTW - Note the different table, which is why I have include in the xml >> >> the stuff about: >> >> >> >> <pdsHash> >> >> <useTableVersion>false</useTableVersion> >> >> </pdsHash> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> -Roy >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 6:09 AM, Sean Arms <address@hidden> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> For the second question regarding "full" vs "best", this has to do with >> >>> how the overall collection is aggregated. For the half-degree NAVGEM, >> >>> you have monthly collections of grids, but none of the forecasts >> >>> overlap. Therefore, the overall collection aggregation exposes all of >> >>> the grids. For the one degree, it looks like the TDS thinks there was an >> >>> overlap in the grids (i.e. two grids with the same valid time), and so >> >>> one of the overlapped grids was "better" (i.e. closer to a runtime) and >> >>> the other was dropped to make a "best" collection. However, I don't see >> >>> that happening in any of the monthly collections listed, so it is >> >>> probably a bug. In the xml for these two collections, can you add "TwoD" >> >>> to the datasetTypes attribute of the gribConfig element? That will give >> >>> us a bit more information. >> >>> >> >> >> >> ********************** >> >> "The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. >> >> Government or NOAA." >> >> ********************** >> >> Roy Mendelssohn >> >> Supervisory Operations Research Analyst >> >> NOAA/NMFS >> >> Environmental Research Division >> >> Southwest Fisheries Science Center >> >> ***Note new street address*** >> >> 110 McAllister Way >> >> Santa Cruz, CA 95060 >> >> Phone: (831)-420-3666 >> >> Fax: (831) 420-3980 >> >> e-mail: address@hidden www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/ >> >> >> >> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." >> >> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected" >> >> "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK >> >> Jr. >> >> >> >> ********************** >> "The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. >> Government or NOAA." >> ********************** >> Roy Mendelssohn >> Supervisory Operations Research Analyst >> NOAA/NMFS >> Environmental Research Division >> Southwest Fisheries Science Center >> ***Note new street address*** >> 110 McAllister Way >> Santa Cruz, CA 95060 >> Phone: (831)-420-3666 >> Fax: (831) 420-3980 >> e-mail: address@hidden www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/ >> >> "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." >> "From those who have been given much, much will be expected" >> "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr. >> > > ********************** > "The contents of this message do not reflect any position of the U.S. > Government or NOAA." > ********************** > Roy Mendelssohn > Supervisory Operations Research Analyst > NOAA/NMFS > Environmental Research Division > Southwest Fisheries Science Center > ***Note new street address*** > 110 McAllister Way > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > Phone: (831)-420-3666 > Fax: (831) 420-3980 > e-mail: address@hidden www: http://www.pfeg.noaa.gov/ > > "Old age and treachery will overcome youth and skill." > "From those who have been given much, much will be expected" > "the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice" -MLK Jr. >