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Hi John: We will check year 0000 also. the symptom is that both ncWms and godiva dont work? John > Hi John, > Yes, correct. Godiva2 does not work with year 0001. However, I was hoping > you could restore functionality of NCSS and WMS for year 0000 so we didn't > have to use year 0001 as a workaround. If that's not going to happen, just > let us know. > Thanks, > John > > > address@hidden> wrote: > > > Hi John: > > > > So the problem you see is that with > > > > PF5_SST_Climatology_Monthly_1982_2008.nc > > > > as it stands, godiva is not working ?? > > > > John > > > > > Hi John Caron, > > > Thanks. I pointed out the UDUNITS discrepancy to Lucas for the SeaWiFS > > data > > > and he will address that soon. The other you show is correct, except that > > > Lucas temporarily changed it to year 0001 instead of 0000 as a workaround > > > while you addressed why year 0000 was not working anymore. The year 0001 > > > produces WMS output, but for some reason Godiva2 fails to work so it is > > not > > > a satisfactory long-term solution. Plus, I'm hoping TDS can work with > > year > > > 0000 as it did pre TDS 4.3.17, since otherwise I will need to update my > > > client to work with year 0001 (which I can do if needed). Please advise > > how > > > to proceed. > > > Thanks!, > > > John Maurer > > > > > > > > > address@hidden> wrote: > > > > > > > 1) Looking at > > > > > > > > SeaWiFS_Chla_Climatology_Monthly_1997_2010.nc > > > > > > > > the TIME variable has > > > > > > > > double TIME(TIME=12); > > > > :units = "1-JAN-0001 00:00:00"; > > > > :time_origin = "hour since 0001-01-01 00:00:00"; > > > > > > > > problem is that "units" attribute is not a valid udunit time unit > > although > > > > "time_origin" is. Since this uses CF COnventions, its not recognized > > as a > > > > time coordinate. > > > > > > > > 2) Looking at > > > > > > > > PF5_SST_Climatology_Monthly_1982_2008.nc > > > > > > > > double TIME(TIME=12); > > > > :units = "hour since 0001-01-01 00:00:00"; > > > > :time_origin = "1-JAN-0001 00:00:00"; > > > > :modulo = " "; > > > > > > > > this is ok as time unit, the coordinate values are: > > > > > > > > hour since 0001-01-01 00:00:00 > > > > TIME = > > > > {366.0, 1096.485, 1826.97, 2557.455, 3287.94, 4018.425, 4748.91, > > > > 5479.395, 6209.88, 6940.365, 7670.85, 8401.335} > > > > > > > > 0001-01-16T06:00:00Z > > > > 0001-02-15T16:29:05.999Z > > > > 0001-03-18T02:58:12Z > > > > 0001-04-17T13:27:18Z > > > > 0001-05-17T23:56:24Z > > > > 0001-06-17T10:25:30Z > > > > 0001-07-17T20:54:36Z > > > > 0001-08-17T07:23:42Z > > > > 0001-09-16T17:52:48Z > > > > 0001-10-17T04:21:53.999Z > > > > 0001-11-16T14:51:00Z > > > > 0001-12-17T01:20:06Z > > > > > > > > is this incorrect? Anyway, I would expect that WMS would work with it, > > > > although i havent tested it. > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi John(s) > > > > > > > > > > thanks for looking into this. Please find the staged netcdf files at: > > > > > http://xfer.nmfs.hawaii.edu/lmoxey/temp/ > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Lucas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > address@hidden> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi John: > > > > > > > > > > > > can we get a copy of one of the actual files? thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > JOhn > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear THREDDS developers, > > > > > > > After NOAA OceanWatch upgraded their TDS on Friday to 4.3.17, we > > > > noticed > > > > > > > that their satellite monthly climatologies were broken. These > > > > datasets > > > > > > use > > > > > > > dates with year 0000 as a convention to indicate that they are > > > > monthly > > > > > > > climatologies: because they average over several years, there is > > no > > > > > > > appropriate single year so 0000 is used to indicate this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > TDS was working fine for these datasets prior to the 4.3.17 > > upgrade: > > > > > > > OPeNDAP, NetCDF Subset Service (NCSS), Web Map Service (WMS), > > and Web > > > > > > > Coverage Service (WCS) all worked (with the small hiccup that > > NCSS > > > > > > returns > > > > > > > different dates than WMS does since TDS and ncWMS use different > > > > > > underlying > > > > > > > time libraries, is what I've been told in the past). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > After the upgrade, OPeNDAP worked, NCSS did not provide any time > > > > > > dimension > > > > > > > options, and WMS GetCapabilities did not list any times either > > (so > > > > > > Godiva2 > > > > > > > didn't work either). We use these monthly climatology services > > in our > > > > > > > integrated map viewer (Voyager) at PacIOOS and hope that Unidata > > can > > > > fix > > > > > > > this year 0000 issue. I have been working with Lucas Moxey at > > > > OceanWatch > > > > > > on > > > > > > > this upgrade (cc'd here). As a test, we tried switching the data > > to > > > > year > > > > > > > 0001: while NCSS and WMS now recognize the time dimension, > > Godiva2 > > > > fails > > > > > > to > > > > > > > display anything. I would prefer to get it working with year > > 0000 if > > > > > > > possible. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here are the datasets in question: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://oceanwatch.pifsc.noaa.gov/thredds/catalog.html?dataset=sw_clim > > > > > > > > > > > http://oceanwatch.pifsc.noaa.gov/thredds/catalog.html?dataset=pf5_clim > > > > > > > > > > > http://oceanwatch.pifsc.noaa.gov/thredds/catalog.html?dataset=aq_clim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for giving this your attention! > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > John Maurer > > > > > > > Pacific Islands Ocean Observing System (PacIOOS) > > > > > > > University of Hawaii at Manoa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ticket Details > > > > > > =================== > > > > > > Ticket ID: UQE-222785 > > > > > > Department: Support THREDDS > > > > > > Priority: Normal > > > > > > Status: Open > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ticket Details > > > > =================== > > > > Ticket ID: UQE-222785 > > > > Department: Support THREDDS > > > > Priority: High > > > > Status: Open > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ticket Details > > =================== > > Ticket ID: UQE-222785 > > Department: Support THREDDS > > Priority: High > > Status: Open > > > > > > Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: UQE-222785 Department: Support THREDDS Priority: High Status: Open