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Hi Sarah, The x and y coordinate values are in km on the projection plane. The ncdump -c output only shows the strictly defined "coordinate variables" for the netCDF classic data model, which means coordinates that have the same name as a netCDF dimension and that are one-dimensional, such as x and y. lat and lon in thefile you are referring to are not netCDF classic coordinate variables, because they are 2D variables: double lat(y, x) ; lat:units = "degrees_north" ; lat:long_name = "latitude coordinate" ; lat:standard_name = "latitude" ; lat:_CoordinateAxisType = "Lat" ; double lon(y, x) ; lon:units = "degrees_east" ; lon:long_name = "longitude coordinate" ; lon:standard_name = "longitude" ; lon:_CoordinateAxisType = "Lon" ; Each of these has 433*622 = 269326 values, corresponding to each point of the grid defined by the 622 x and 422 y values. You could see the lat and lon values in the output of the command ncdump -v lat,lon nam_218_20081201_0000_000.grb.nc If that doesn't answer your question, it may be helpful to consult the article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_conformal_conic_projection --Russ Russ Rew UCAR Unidata Program address@hidden http://www.unidata.ucar.edu Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: DCR-102401 Department: Support netCDF Priority: Normal Status: Closed