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Re: [thredds] On the suitability of BUFR and GRIB for archiving data



On 1/3/2012 12:10 PM, Paul Hamer wrote:
All good stuff John. Here's hoping that the proposed solutions are considered and who knows, even implemented.
Unfortunately for Unidata the situation as it exists still requires a 
workable approach and an easy way for users of the tools published by 
you to add/update these tables during their own development of 
models/observing systems.  I have, in my own experience, had several 
groups ask about BUFR and GRIB encoding and how to handle something 
that's not yet dealt with using WMO published tables. I'm going to be 
working some with Java NetCDF on setting up what I consider to be a 
more flexible table handling approach and will be happy to pass that 
on if I can get it to a publishable standard. :-)
yes, id love to get that, and/or hear more about your plans.

im working on similar things in 4.3, heres the doc i have so far:

http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/netcdf-java/formats/GribTables.html

not positive if thats a done deal or not, some of it is harder than i expected.
One thing missing from your paper is a valid date/time component for 
each table entry. Both GRIB and BUFR (since edition 3, version 13) 
allow for updates to existing table entries. One would require an 
ability to obtain a valid table for the reference time of the data 
being unpacked since the table may change within a single version 
published - I know, it's completely the wrong way to do anything like 
this but that is the reality.
this could only be done for a particular center, who would have to 
validate when they changed tables. whew, talk about brittle.

Anyway, here's wishing all of you at Unidata the very best in 2012 and 
thanks again to you and your colleagues for taking time to interview 
me last year.
A pleasure. things are in a bit of turmoil here, sorry we didnt have 
anything to offer you right now.