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Dear Greg You can include earth_radius with any of the mappings. At the start of App F it says "The attributes which describe the ellipsoid and prime meridian may be included, when applicable, with any grid mapping." and earth_radius is one of those. If it's not specified but you need it, I think you can assume any sensible value. Cheers Jonathan On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 06:02:10PM -0500, Greg Rappa wrote: > Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:02:10 -0500 > From: Greg Rappa <address@hidden> > User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) > To: address@hidden > CC: "address@hidden" <address@hidden>, > "'John Caron'" <address@hidden>, > "Newell, Oliver" <address@hidden> > Subject: Earth Radius for CF Grid Mappings > > > I recently discovered that in order to resolve the location of a grid > element (x/y-to-lat/long conversion), using software in the [1]General > Cartographic Transformation Package (GCTP), a value for the > Earth's radius is required. For example, the GCTP functions > (lamazinvint and lamazinv) for converting x & y offsets to location > (latitude,longitude) of a grid mapped to a Lambert Azimuthal > Equal Area (LAEA) projection require: Earth's radius, center > latitude and longitude, and offset for east and north. > However, the CF Conventions document Appendix F (Grid Mappings), > only refers to an Earth radius in the Vertical Perspective grid > mapping. > For NetCDF file readers, how are the grid element locations to be > resolved for mappings such as LAEA if no Earth radius is provided > with the file? Is a projection-specific radius to be implied by > NetCDF > readers? Specifically, do all grid mappings use a prescribed set of > Earth radius or radii (major & minor) that NetCDF readers must > maintain? > The CF Grid Mappings appendix refers readers to a Web site that > discusses "[2]random issues" in which it is stated that GCTP always > uses a > radius of 6370997 meters (E019 - Normal Sphere). I suppose this > answers my question, regarding the LAEA projection. However, given > the multitude of grid mappings and Earth radius definitions that > exist, I'm > wondering if an earth_radius attribute ought to be added to the CF > grid > mapping parameter set for all projections (perhaps earth_radius_major > and earth_radius_minor, if applicable). > Greg. > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Greg Rappa > MIT Lincoln Laboratory Group 43 - Weather Sensing > Phone: 781-981-3660, Fax: 781-981-0632, Email: [3]address@hidden > > References > > 1. http://gcmd.nasa.gov/records/USGS-GCTP.html > 2. http://www.remotesensing.org/geotiff/proj_list/random_issues.html#laea > 3. mailto:address@hidden From address@hidden Tue Dec 16 16:29:15 2008 Return-Path: <address@hidden> X-Original-To: address@hidden Delivered-To: address@hidden Received: by laraine.unidata.ucar.edu (Postfix, from userid 60001) id C6069CB94D; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:29:15 -0700 (MST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on uni3.unidata.ucar.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Received: from ll.mit.edu (LLMAIL1.LL.MIT.EDU [129.55.12.41]) by laraine.unidata.ucar.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDBD4CB94B; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:28:19 -0700 (MST) Received: (from smtp@localhost) by ll.mit.edu (8.12.10/8.8.8) id mBGNSBr0023085; Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:28:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from sampson.llan.ll.mit.edu( ), claiming to be "[ ]" via SMTP by llpost, id smtpdAAAx7aOAS; Tue Dec 16 18:27:36 2008 Message-ID: <address@hidden> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:27:36 -0500 From: Greg Rappa <address@hidden> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jonathan Gregory <address@hidden> CC: "address@hidden" <address@hidden>, "'John Caron'" <address@hidden>, "Newell, Oliver" <address@hidden>, "address@hidden" <address@hidden> Subject: Re: Earth Radius for CF Grid Mappings References: <address@hidden.local> <address@hidden> <address@hidden> <address@hidden> <address@hidden> <address@hidden> <200812162317 In-Reply-To: <address@hidden> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK. Thanks. I didn't notice the definitions in Table F.1. I'm all set now. Greg. Jonathan Gregory wrote: > Dear Greg > > You can include earth_radius with any of the mappings. At the start of App F > it says > "The attributes which describe the ellipsoid and prime meridian may be > included, when applicable, with any grid mapping." > and earth_radius is one of those. If it's not specified but you need it, I > think you can assume any sensible value. > > Cheers > > Jonathan >