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Art, > Both systems are running ntp. I just checked them, and they both have > correctly set times. Unless ntp allows the time to run out a large > portion of a second, I don't think this is going to be the problem. > > I don't have pqmon running on the system on a regular basis... maybe I > will do that. However, I've checked this before and it hasn't been an > issue. The queue size on both systems is 8 GB and the latencies coming > into idd-ingest (for CONDUIT, our slowest feed) max's out around 2000 > seconds. I believe the queue holds much more than 2000 seconds of data. The reason I asked about the age of the oldest product in the queue is because the LDM on iddrs3 asked for data-products beginning just after the last received one: > Jan 14 16:29:44 iddrs3 idd-ingest.meteo.psu.edu[3470] NOTE: LDM-6 > desired product-class: 20070114102944.933 TS_ENDT {{ANY, ".*"},{NONE, > "SIG=e364b6103d1b4037e788f32c5516c86b"}} (where the "SIG=..." encodes the MD5 checksum of the last, received product) but that product wasn't found in the product-queue of idd-ingest's LDM: > Jan 14 16:29:46 idd-ingest iddrs3.meteo.psu.edu[19885] NOTE: Data-product > with signature e364b6103d1b4037e788f32c5516c86b wasn't found in > product-queue As a consequence, idd-ingest's LDM had no option but to start sending data-products based on the "from" time (six hours ago) in iddrs3's request (the fallback position). If the system was operating correctly, then the "signature" data-product would have been found in idd-ingest's product-queue. The fact that it wasn't indicates a problem. If the product was removed in order to free-up space, then it wouldn't be found. Hence my asking about the age of the oldest product. > I don't recall seeing this kind of behaviour until recently. Is it > possible that something you fixed in the 6.4.7.1 version could be related > to this behaviour? Beta version 6.4.7.1 changes the way the "from" time is set. Before, the "from" time would be set based on the creation-time of the last, successfully-received data-product. Now, the "from" time is set based on the "offset" parameter (the "-o" option") or the maximum acceptable latency (the "-m" parameter) if the offset isn't specified. This eliminates the possibility of the upstream LDM skipping data-products that were created earlier but inserted after the "signature" data-product. The question is "Why wasn't the signature data-product found in idd-ingest's queue?" How often does this problem occur? > Can you tell me what version of the LDM is running on idd.unidata.ucar.edu? The idd.unidata.ucar.edu backend systems run version 6.4.5 of the LDM. They're so well-connected and high-up in the distribution system that they tend not to have the problems of their less well-connected brethren further down (which is also why observations like yours are so valuable). Regards, Steve Emmerson Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: JIG-686458 Department: Support LDM Priority: Normal Status: On Hold