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> Yuan, Julian, etc., > > I'm using IDV v4.1 on an iMac running Mac OS X v.10.8.5. > > I'm loading and plotting geographic data, including topographic elevations, > for a domain generated locally by the WRF Preprocessing System (WPS). I'm > loading the data via one of our local RAMADDA servers > (http://virga.sfsu.edu:8080/repository/thredds). The file is a NetCDF file > (geo_em.CenCal_BayArea.nc<http://virga.sfsu.edu/data/wrf/geo_em.CenCal_BayArea.nc>). > I can load and plot this just fine (a bundle is attached: > Dempsey_SFBayAreaTopography_RAMADDA.xidv.) > > However, a problem arises when I create a new geographic data set with the > same size and containing the same types of fields but shifted in location, > and overwrite the previous NetCDF file with the new data, keeping the same > file name. To plot this geographically shifted data set in the IDV after > plotting the original one, I first remove the original displays and loaded > data by selecting Edit > Remove All Displays and Data. Then I access and load > the new file (which has the same name as the old, overwritten file), and plot > the result using exactly the same plotting specifications as the original one. > > Unfortunately, the plot that I get is identical to the original one. This is > true even though the contents of the files are not the same (I checked to > make sure)--the location metadata in each of the two files are exactly what I > want them to be (not the same). Hence, the IDV still appears to be plotting > the original data, not the new data, even though I've presumably removed the > original data and loaded the new data. > > I get the same results if I first remove the original data source by > <Command>-clicking on the data source in the Dashboard > Field Selector > > Data Sources, and selecting "Remove Data Source". Ditto if I remove the data > from the IDV by either means, then quit the IDV, restart, and try again. > Ditto if I refresh the listing of files offered by RAMADDA after overwriting > the original file but before selecting and loading the new version. Ditto if > I don't remove the display of the original plot, or don't remove either the > display or the data source before loading the replacement data and plotting > it. > > On the other hand, if I give the new file a different name from the original > one, load it, and plot it, I get a plot of the shifted domain, just as I > expect. > > On the third hand, if I access and load the new data using HTTP or as a local > file instead of via RAMADDA, I get a plot of the shifted domain, as desired. > > On the fourth hand, if I put the two different data sets in files with the > same name but in two different directories (e.g., SFSU Weather Data > wrf and > in SFSU Weather Data > wrf > temp_demo), and plot the second one after > removing the data and displays created from plotting the first one, then the > second plot is successful. > > And finally, if I access the original file via HTTP or as a local file, then > remove the data and display from the IDV, then overwrite the original data > with the new data (keeping the file name the same), and finally access and > load the new file via RAMADDA, the new plot is correct. > > To summarize: Using RAMADDA, there is a problem when loading and plotting two > different sets of data in succession stored files that have the same file > name and reside in the same directory. The second plot is identical to the > first plot, even when the data and display from the first plot are removed > before loading the replacement data. > > A final note: when I refresh the listing of the directory containing the data > in RAMADDA (SFSU Weather Data > wrf), RAMADDA jumps back to a parent > directory (containing SFSU Weather Data) two levels higher up, though when I > navigate back down to the directory I want (wrf), the listing is indeed > refreshed. This is annoying behavior, though! > > -- Dave > > P.S. Yuan, you're probably fully engaged responding the significant feedback > being provided about the new image plotting enhancements, to this probably > feels like a distraction! (I wonder if Jeff McWhirter is ultimately going to > have to deal with it, if it turns out to be primarily a RAMADDA problem.) > Dave, I am going to close this ticket since Jeff provided a fixed in this morning's email. We can reopen this ticket if his new release doesn't fix your problem. Yuan > > *************************************************************** > * Dr. Dave Dempsey | ^ ___ \|/ > * > * Dept. of Earth & Climate Sciences | ) ^ /||_||\ --0-- * > * San Francisco State University | ) ) / ||_|| \ /|\ * > * 1600 Holloway Ave. | ) ) / ||_|| \ > * > * San Francisco, CA 94132 | ) ) / ||_|| \ ^ * > * | ) ) ) > ||_|| \ * > * Phone: (415) 338-7716 | ) ) )~||~||~~~~ \~~* > * FAX: (415) 338-7705 | ) ) ) ) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~* > * Email: address@hidden<mailto:address@hidden> | ) ) ) ) > ) ~ ~ ~ ~ * > *************************************************************** > > > > > > Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: HAU-717700 Department: Support IDV Priority: Normal Status: Closed