[IDV #TPP-254601]: More details on "Sunday" problem with OPeNDAP and/or THREDDS

Good question. Being new to the IDV team, I can't really say why it's like 
that, but my guess is that there just wasn't a good place to put it in the 
lower right control tab. Out of curiosity, how often do you you the lat/lon 
bounding box vs the rubber-band tool?

Sean

> Ahah!  Getting clearer.  Last question:  Why does the lower right control
> set have no specific lat/lon boxes (but only a rubber-band tool), while the
> PROPERTIES controls do include lat/lon boxes?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Unidata IDV Support" <address@hidden>
> To: <address@hidden>
> Cc: <address@hidden>
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 1:59 PM
> Subject: [IDV #TPP-254601]: More details on "Sunday" problem with OPeNDAP
> and/or THREDDS
> 
> 
> > Greetings Murray,
> >
> >> Good Morning Sean,
> >>
> >> Wow.  So early.  Yeps, I have msgs from the HYCOM folks about their
> >> troubles, and actually thought I was sending a note to them.  My dementia
> >> kicked in and I sent it to you folks instead.
> >
> > No problem :-)
> >
> >>
> >> I've seen their travails from my end, with the appearance and
> >> disappearance
> >> of my target data (over the hours), and even when available the spatial
> >> and
> >> temporal subsetting doesn't work, i.e. the guts of OPeNDAP.  That's show
> >> biz.  I wish somebody would buy them a better server.
> >>
> >> Anyway, while a friendly soul is listening, I want to ask you about the
> >> difference between subsetting a la the PROPERTIES of the data object (in
> >> the
> >> upper left quarter of IDV's dashboard) and the similar (but not so
> >> comprehensive) functions in the lower right corner (available just before
> >> CREATE DISPLAY).
> >
> > The Properties of the data object apply to the entire set of variables
> > within the data source, while the tools in the lower right corner apply
> > the field you've selected.
> >
> >> They are almost, but not quite identical, for example the
> >> spatial subsetting is manual only, without coordinate specification.
> >
> > The properties "Spatial Subset" tab is a combination of the "Region" and
> > "Stride" tabs in the lower right part of the dashboard, except like I said
> > before, one is dataset wide, the other is for a single variable.
> >
> >> Also,  I've seen cases where initial specification of TIMES in the upper
> >> left
> >> corner was not honored later in the lower right corner.  Which one
> >> over-rides the other, or is it merely a matter of which one was set last?
> >> And last, what is the full meaning of USE DEFAULT?
> >>
> >
> > From what I gather, "use default" will default to what is set under the
> > Properties for the data source (which is, by default, no spatial or
> > temporal subsetting). If you set a temporal and/or spatial subset via the
> > Properties interface for a data source and have "use default" selected in
> > the times, region, and stride tabs in the lower right, then the temporal
> > and/or spatial subset you've set for the data source should be honored (if
> > not, please let us know!).
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Sean
> >
> >> Murray
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Unidata IDV Support" <address@hidden>
> >> To: <address@hidden>
> >> Cc: <address@hidden>
> >> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 8:13 AM
> >> Subject: [IDV #TPP-254601]: More details on "Sunday" problem with OPeNDAP
> >> and/or THREDDS
> >>
> >>
> >> > Greetings Murray,
> >> >
> >> > It looks like the HYCOM folks are having some issues with their THREDDS
> >> > server:
> >> >
> >> > http://groups.google.com/a/hycom.org/group/notice/browse_thread/thread/2351e493822b42fd#
> >> >
> >> > THe particular dataset you pointed to is not available because they are
> >> > trying to serve out a collection of datasets, and the THREDDS server
> >> > does
> >> > not 'see' any datasets to collect together. We haven't received any
> >> > support tickets from them, so it may be that they are doing some
> >> > changes
> >> > to how they serve out collections of data - you may want to drop them a
> >> > line to see if they have any more information: address@hidden
> >> >
> >> > Cheers!
> >> >
> >> > Sean
> >> >
> >> >> Full Name: Murray Brown
> >> >> Email Address: address@hidden
> >> >> Organization: UNESCO/IOC/IODE Marine Data Training Program
> >> >> Package Version: 3.0u2 build date:2012-02-10 17:21 UTC
> >> >> Operating System: Windows XP
> >> >> Hardware: Java: home: C:\Program Files\IDV_3.0u2\jre version: 1.6.0_20
> >> >> j3d:1.5.2 fcs (build4)
> >> >> Description of problem:
> >> >>
> >> >> There was an error loading the data:
> >> >>
> >> >> Error creating data source:OPENDAP.GRID with:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://tds.hycom.org/thredds/dodsC/GLBa0.08/expt_90.9
> >> >>
> >> >> Grid data source failed making data set:
> >> >> dods://tds.hycom.org/thredds/dodsC/GLBa0.08/expt_90.9
> >> >>
> >> >> Method failed:HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error on URL=
> >> >> http://tds.hycom.org/thredds/dodsC/GLBa0.08/expt_90.9.dds
> >> >>
> >> >> I can actually load some older "legacy" results, but nothing current
> >> >> that is global.
> >> >>
> >> >> Murray
> >> >>
> >> >> ******************
> >> >> Stack trace:
> >> >> opendap.dap.DAP2Exception: Method failed:HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server
> >> >> Error on URL=
> >> >> http://tds.hycom.org/thredds/dodsC/GLBa0.08/expt_90.9.dds
> >> >> at opendap.dap.DConnect2.openConnection(DConnect2.java:280)
> >> >> at opendap.dap.DConnect2.getDDS(DConnect2.java:517)
> >> >> at opendap.dap.DConnect2.getDDS(DConnect2.java:491)
> >> >> at ucar.nc2.dods.DODSNetcdfFile.<init>(DODSNetcdfFile.java:212)
> >> >> at ucar.nc2.dataset.NetcdfDataset.acquireDODS(NetcdfDataset.java:809)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.nc2.dataset.NetcdfDataset.openOrAcquireFile(NetcdfDataset.java:654)
> >> >> at ucar.nc2.dataset.NetcdfDataset.openDataset(NetcdfDataset.java:424)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.nc2.dataset.NetcdfDataset.acquireDataset(NetcdfDataset.java:520)
> >> >> at ucar.nc2.dt.grid.GridDataset.open(GridDataset.java:101)
> >> >> at ucar.nc2.dt.grid.GridDataset.open(GridDataset.java:87)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.data.grid.GeoGridDataSource.doMakeDataSet(GeoGridDataSource.java:1094)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.data.grid.GeoGridDataSource.getDataset(GeoGridDataSource.java:1116)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.data.grid.GeoGridDataSource.initAfterCreation(GeoGridDataSource.java:478)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.data.DataManager.createDataSource(DataManager.java:1577)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.idv.IntegratedDataViewer.createDataSource(IntegratedDataViewer.java:1980)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.idv.IntegratedDataViewer.makeDataSource(IntegratedDataViewer.java:1897)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.idv.IntegratedDataViewer.makeDataSource(IntegratedDataViewer.java:1831)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.idv.IntegratedDataViewer.makeDataSource(IntegratedDataViewer.java:1804)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.idv.chooser.IdvChooser.makeDataSource(IdvChooser.java:943)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.idv.chooser.XmlChooser.makeDataSource(XmlChooser.java:280)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.idv.chooser.ThreddsHandler.processNodes(ThreddsHandler.java:851)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.idv.chooser.ThreddsHandler.doLoad(ThreddsHandler.java:700)
> >> >> at
> >> >> ucar.unidata.idv.chooser.XmlChooser.doLoadInThread(XmlChooser.java:717)
> >> >> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
> >> >> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
> >> >> at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknown Source)
> >> >> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
> >> >> at ucar.unidata.util.Misc$2.run(Misc.java:1062)
> >> >> at ucar.unidata.util.Misc$3.run(Misc.java:1090)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Ticket Details
> >> > ===================
> >> > Ticket ID: TPP-254601
> >> > Department: Support IDV
> >> > Priority: Normal
> >> > Status: Closed
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > Ticket Details
> > ===================
> > Ticket ID: TPP-254601
> > Department: Support IDV
> > Priority: Normal
> > Status: Open
> >
> >
> 
> 


Ticket Details
===================
Ticket ID: TPP-254601
Department: Support IDV
Priority: Normal
Status: Open