Rick, It appears that there are two user accounts that manage the LDM: "oper" and "ldm". Is this true? If so, then know that the LDM was not designed for this and it might not work correctly. > as oper> ldmadmin stop > as ldm> rm runtime > as ldm> ln -s ldm-6.13.11 runtime > as oper> ldmadmin start > as oper>ldmadmin watch Regards, Steve Emmerson Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: QBL-783661 Department: Support IDD Priority: Normal Status: Closed =================== NOTE: All email exchanges with Unidata User Support are recorded in the Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made publicly available through the web. If you do not want to have your interactions made available in this way, you must let us know in each email you send to us.