[Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection

Hi Mallory, 

aeolus.ucsd.edu

Now is capable of feeding both NIMAGE and the NAM and GFS grids of the CONDUIT 
feed.

After you have had a chance to experiment with the different grids, let us know 
which ones you are using, and we may pare down the request to conserve 
bandwidth.

FYI...the 40KM NAM has many more parameters than the 20KM NAM, the 20KM focuses 
mainly on surface parameters (tho it does have higher resolution).

Enjoy,

Jeff Weber

> Jeff,
> 
> Yes, I saw the multiple grids - now I understand - each grid is a subset
> of the conduit feed?
> 
> I'm not sure exactly what to request but recognize the need to be
> efficient with bandwidth.  Our forecasting needs tend to be small scale
> / high resolution.  When forecasting air quality and fire weather the
> highest resolution wind and pressure grids are the most useful.  I have
> FX-Net loaded and often use the NAM12 for my forecast.  We also have
> access to the MM5 through the Desert Research Institute.  However,
> during the rainy season it is useful to track storms as they form and
> move in from the Pacific so the GFS 2.5 degree resolution works well.
> 
> Initially, I am inclined to request the three GFS grids (#004,#003,#002)
> and two NAM grids #212(40km) and #215(20km).  We may be able to
> discontinue the NAM40 and either the GFS 0.5 or GFS 1.0 or both.  It
> would be helpful if we could work with all these grids a bit before
> deciding.
> 
> I can't tell for sure what GFS grids Rob Dale is using.  It looks like
> the only NAM grid he is using is the NAM40.  I'm pretty sure we would
> prefer the NAM 20.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Mallory
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Unidata IDD Support [mailto:address@hidden]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:26 AM
> To: Kent Field
> Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> 
> Hi Mallory,
> 
> There are many "grids" available for both thr GFS and the NAM..
> 
> i.e. I do not ~think you would want the Alaska NAM grids, but maybe I am
> wrong, perhaps you utilize those for "upwind model initialization"..
> 
> Also, you may not want BOTH the 40KM and the 20KM resolution of the NAM
> over CONUS grid 215..
> 
> If we keep it as needed we will reduce the chance of inducing any
> latency.
> 
> If you are still not sure, we can attempt requesting ALL GFS and NAM to
> aeolus and let you work with them to determine your needs and we can
> monitor to make sure we do not induce any latency to these and other
> feeds from aeolus.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Jeff Weber
> 
> 
> 
> > Jeff,
> > I returned to work yesterday and was pleased to find satellite images
> > available - have been running a couple of loops to aid me in
> forecasting
> > for the big fire here in Ventura County.
> > If I am limited to just one model I would choose the GFS however if
> the
> > additional bandwith consumed is not too great it would be nice to have
> > the NAM also.
> > Thanks for your support.
> > Mallory
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Unidata IDD Support
> [mailto:address@hidden]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:58 AM
> > To: Kent Field
> > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> > address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> >
> > Hi Mallory,
> >
> > NIMAGE is now available from aeolus.ucsd.edu
> >
> > Feel free to begin requesting any NIMAGE products.
> >
> > We would like to request a subset of the CONDUIT feed so we do not
> > consume
> > bandwidth unnecessarily.
> >
> > i.e. is there a specific model you are desirous of in the CONDUIT
> feed?
> >
> > Please see:
> >
> > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/data/conduit/ldm_idd/index.html
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Jeff Weber
> >
> >
> > > Thanks again Jeff.  I'll be out of the office beginning Fri 9/15
> until
> > > Tue 9/26.  Depending on when additional data begins flowing you may
> > not
> > > hear back from me for a couple of weeks.
> > > Mallory
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 11:32 AM
> > > To: Kent Field
> > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> > > address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > >
> > > Hi Mallory,
> > >
> > > GEMPAK does not have an auto purge, but there are many ways to
> "scour"
> > > directories.
> > >
> > > The LDM queue will simply age off the oldest products as new ones
> > arrive
> > > using the allocated space for your LDM queue. Scour utilities can be
> > > implemented over your data directory(ies) to insure you do not fill
> up
> > > storage, depending upon your needs and resources.
> > >
> > > > Jeff,
> > > > Yes, this sounds like it will work for us.  Our IS dept is not
> > worried
> > > > about the full feed however they asked if GEMPAK has an auto purge
> > of
> > > > the data que.  I'm sure it does but will learn more about this to
> > keep
> > > > our machine running happy.  Please proceed.
> > >
> > > Will do...
> > >
> > > One more thing -  does it
> > > > complicate or make extra work for folks if it is discovered that
> we
> > > need
> > > > to reduce some products from the full feed?
> > >
> > > No, you can request the full feed, or any subset thereof, via
> regular
> > > expressions in your ldmd.conf file - or choose whether to file or
> > > decode, etc. in your pqact.conf file. Either way it has no impact on
> > > your upstream source.
> > >
> > > > Thanks for your quick response.
> > > > Mallory
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Jeff Weber
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:04 AM
> > > > To: Kent Field
> > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> > > > address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> > > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mallory,
> > > >
> > > > We would prefer to keep feeding you from UCSD as we have some
> access
> > > to
> > > > that machine, and you are both geographically and electronically
> > close
> > > > to that node.
> > > >
> > > > We can begin ingesting the CONDUIT and NIMAGE into UCSD (I
> believe,
> > we
> > > > will need to check w/them on this, but suspect it will be OK). Are
> > > there
> > > > specific items you desire in the CONDUIT and NIMAGE Feeds or do
> you
> > > > think you will desire the full feed. Keep in mind that CONDUIT
> > > averages
> > > > about 1.5 GB/hour and can reach 3 GB/hour.
> > > >
> > > > Not sure how big your queue is, but it may come into play with
> this
> > > type
> > > > of volume, something you may want to check into.
> > > >
> > > > Great news that you can serve as a relay to other APCD's, we love
> > that
> > > > community spirit! As of now, we have not had additional requests,
> > but
> > > > suspect we will in the future.
> > > >
> > > > I will attempt to get the CONDUIT and NIMAGE feeds to UCSD's
> machine
> > > and
> > > > notify you when they are there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Does this sound like it will workable plan for you?..Hope so.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Weber
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > I work with Kent Field at Ventura County Air Pollution Control
> > > > District
> > > > > and am trying to get our Gempak system operational.  According
> to
> > > Rob
> > > > > Dale (vender who set up our computer), the feed from UCSD
> > > > > (aeolus.ucsd.edu) does not have the CONDUIT AND NIMAGE feeds.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/idd/rtstats/siteindex.php?aeolus.uc
> > > > > sd.edu
> > > > >
> > > > > Since it does not seem to be working with San Diego APCD being
> the
> > > > feed
> > > > > host, may I suggest that Ventura County APCD become the feed
> host.
> > > I
> > > > > have spoken to the folks in our IS department. They are
> supportive
> > > of
> > > > my
> > > > > suggestion and have assured me that they will allow other Air
> > > > Districts
> > > > > to get the feed when requested.  Alternately, could you find
> > another
> > > > > source for us that has the all the feeds?
> > > > > Thanks for your help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Mallory Ham
> > > > > Ventura County APCD
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original
> > > > > Message-------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > From: Kent Field
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 7:53 AM
> > > > > To: 'address@hidden'
> > > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden; Mallory Ham
> > > > > Subject: RE: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know how to put this and not sound negative or petty,
> but
> > > San
> > > > > Diego APCD has some internal political powerplays going on, and
> i
> > > was
> > > > > wondering if you could direct me through another data source.  I
> > > just
> > > > > want to get weather data.  Maybe from SJSU or UCSB?  Is there a
> > way
> > > > you
> > > > > can get this going for me soon?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry for the hassle,
> > > > >
> > > > > Kent
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > > > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 2:11 PM
> > > > > To: Kent Field
> > > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden;
> > > > > address@hidden; address@hidden
> > > > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Kent,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been talking with Robe Dale, and we feel it is best if
> the
> > > > APCD's
> > > > > feed themselves. So, Jean Timmerman is the contact at SDAPCD,
> and
> > > > since
> > > > > they are up and running, they should serve as the feed host.
> Once
> > > they
> > > > > have placed the allow for you on their machine, and you point
> your
> > > > > request to their machine, data should flow.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jean's contact info is:
> > > > >
> > > > > Jean Timmerman
> > > > > Air Resources Specialist
> > > > > Air Pollution Control District
> > > > > County of San Diego
> > > > > 858-586-2762
> > > > > address@hidden
> > > > >
> > > > > I am going to cc Jean and Rob on this e-mail in hopes that you
> can
> > > > > coordinate this effort.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff Weber
> > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My PC is turned on with gempak installed.  LDM installed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm ready for the topology.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What's next?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kent
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > > > > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:11 PM
> > > > > > To: Kent Field
> > > > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden
> > > > > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Kent,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No worries, a topology is a network set-up for data
> delivery....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will contact SDAPCD, and ask them to place an allow for your
> > > > machine
> > > > > > to ingest data.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If we run into problems, we can feed you on an interim basis
> > until
> > > > > > either SDAPCD or a university accomodates us.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am out of the office tomorrow, please view:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/ldm/ldm-current/basics/feedtypes/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > to see what data feeds you may desire
> > > > > >
> > > > > > and view:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/data/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > for some explanation of the data.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I will contact SDAPCD to see if they are willing to feed you,
> > and
> > > we
> > > > > > will proceed from there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is the LDM installed on your system yet?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If not, that would be a good start...I suspect from your
> > "domain"
> > > > name
> > > > > > of the machine, that this may be a install from a vendor, and
> > that
> > > > > > GEMPAK and the LDM were pre-installed.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Not a problem to get up and running by July 1, normally we can
> > get
> > > > > > things going in a day, if all systems have standard installs,
> > > > > > etc...otherwise more tome may be needed...SDAPCD took a bit of
> > > time,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > hopefully we learned from that  one :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers and welcome aboard!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can't say i'll be the last APCD to request data.  Here at
> > this
> > > > > APCD
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > do twice daily air quality and fire weather forecasts.  We
> > > > forecast
> > > > > > > weather conditions for Ventura County Fire operations
> > > (prescribed
> > > > > fire
> > > > > > > and wildfire).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry but my computer-speak is limited, i don't know the
> term
> > > > > > topology.
> > > > > > > But i'll do whatever it takes to get things going.  How do
> we
> > > set
> > > > it
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > from here?  What's to do?  Who do i contact?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I need to have this up and running before July 1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kent
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Unidata IDD Support
> > > > > > [mailto:address@hidden]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 2:54 PM
> > > > > > > To: Kent Field
> > > > > > > Cc: address@hidden; address@hidden
> > > > > > > Subject: [Support #ZQO-437545]: request for IDD connection
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Kent,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Apologies for the delayed response.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > San Diego Air Pollution Control District is ingesting data
> via
> > > the
> > > > > > > IDD/LDM currently.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They have an arrangement with SJSU for the data delivery.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We, Unidata, provide data to universities and research
> > > > > organizations.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ideally, since you and SDAPCD will probably desire the same
> > > data,
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > Air Pollution Control Districts can begin to establish a
> > > topology
> > > > of
> > > > > > > their own..i.e. you would feed from SDAPCD, and so on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I can check with SJSU amd perhaps UCLA to see if they are
> > > willing
> > > > to
> > > > > > > feed you, but I think the best path is for the APCD's to
> > > establish
> > > > a
> > > > > > > topology. Unidata can and will help you with that if you
> > choose
> > > to
> > > > > go
> > > > > > > that route...this approach scales much better...if we knew
> > that
> > > > you
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > > to be the last APCD to contact us we may arrive at a
> different
> > > > > > > conclusion, but I suspect there are more to come  :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Let us/me know how you feel about this scenario and we can
> > begin
> > > > > > setting
> > > > > > > things up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I work with/for Ventura County Air Pollution Control
> > District
> > > in
> > > > > > > > southern California.  I would like to request access to
> > > receive
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > > weather data.  I'll be doing this via gempak.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Site name: Ventura County Air Pollution Control District,
> > > > > California
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Site Administrator:  Kent Field
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Email: address@hidden
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Phone: 805-662-6960
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Fully Qualified Hostname: VCAPCDGEMPAK
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 67.115.210.229 will be the IP address the system will pick
> > up
> > > > and
> > > > > > use.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If there is someone else i should contact about this
> please
> > > let
> > > > me
> > > > > > > know.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Kent Field
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff Weber
> > > > > > > Unidata User Support
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> 

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