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Re: 20040512: 20040428:IDD Russia upstream request (fwd)



Hi Tom,

Yup, I remembered you were there.

I had already done the tr from atm...see below. For grins I took the feed
westward..and HO!

It is quicker via Japan:

traceroute to 83.149.207.80 (83.149.207.80), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  flra-n140 (128.117.140.252)  1.150 ms  0.355 ms  0.281 ms
 2  gin-n243-80.ucar.edu (128.117.243.81)  0.536 ms  0.494 ms  0.453 ms
 3  jn1-at1-1-0-501.dnj.vbns.net (166.61.8.157)  2.100 ms  2.535 ms  2.561 ms
 4  jn1-so7-0-0-706.dng.vbns.net (204.147.137.57)  22.173 ms  22.185 ms  22.456 
ms
 5  206.220.240.193 (206.220.240.193)  23.317 ms  23.805 ms  23.424 ms
 6  206.220.240.106 (206.220.240.106)  24.569 ms  24.003 ms  24.648 ms
 7  206.220.240.145 (206.220.240.145)  28.361 ms  27.240 ms  25.643 ms
 8  195.209.14.250 (195.209.14.250)  147.780 ms  147.760 ms  147.510 ms
 9  195.209.14.29 (195.209.14.29)  167.757 ms  167.586 ms  167.156 ms
10  195.209.14.155 (195.209.14.155)  211.508 ms  301.966 ms  226.121 ms
11  PRAN-1-AT0-34.rasnet.ru (83.149.193.14)  170.107 ms  169.512 ms  169.312 ms
12  MIAN-2-VL10.rasnet.ru (83.149.192.37)  170.531 ms  169.556 ms  170.748 ms
13  83.149.207.80 (83.149.207.80)  646.508 ms  641.998 ms  555.415 ms


So maybe a feed from UWash instead.

Your tr from atm:

/local/ldm/etc% traceroute met_research3.nchmf.gov.vn
traceroute to met_research3.nchmf.gov.vn (203.162.14.98), 30 hops max, 40
byte packets
 1  colima.nsf.gov (198.181.231.1)  1 ms  1 ms  0 ms
 2  65.113.64.45 (65.113.64.45)  1 ms  2 ms  8 ms
 3  65.113.48.181 (65.113.48.181)  2 ms  1 ms  1 ms
 4  205.171.9.21 (205.171.9.21)  1 ms  1 ms  1 ms
 5  205.171.8.202 (205.171.8.202)  74 ms  80 ms  74 ms
 6  205.171.14.117 (205.171.14.117)  74 ms  74 ms  74 ms
 7  205.171.214.38 (205.171.214.38)  75 ms  76 ms  75 ms
 8  205.171.1.34 (205.171.1.34)  76 ms  75 ms  75 ms
 9  202.97.51.205 (202.97.51.205)  319 ms  319 ms  317 ms
10  202.97.33.170 (202.97.33.170)  216 ms  216 ms  221 ms
11  202.97.4.30 (202.97.4.30)  256 ms  256 ms  256 ms
12  met_research3.nchmf.gov.vn (203.162.14.98)  257 ms  256 ms  256 ms
13  met_research3.nchmf.gov.vn (203.162.14.98)  305 ms  282 ms  281 ms
14  met_research3.nchmf.gov.vn (203.162.14.98)  297 ms  294 ms  284 ms

Seems pretty zippy for a noname network...

I'll investigate feeding Russia from the west coast.

Have fun at the Omni!

Jeff
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On Wed, 12 May 2004, Tom Yoksas wrote:

> >From:  Jeff Weber <address@hidden>
> >Organization:  UCAR/Unidata
> >Keywords:  200405121924.i4CJOWXL026948
>
> Hi Jeff,
>
> >Russia again...
> >I was going to hook them up from atm..
> >Thoughts?
>
> Do a traceroute first to see if atm is the appropriate place to start.
> While you are at it, can you check out the path to:
>
> met_research3.nchmf.gov.vn
>
> I hooked them up to emo knowing that I would change them in the future,
> but I just have not gotten around to it.
>
> FYI, I'm at the GOES-R conference at the Omni in Broomfield...
>
> Tom
>
> >---------- Forwarded message ----------
> >Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 22:04:41 +0400
> >From: Val N.Gloukhov <address@hidden>
> >To: Jeff Weber <address@hidden>, address@hidden
> >Subject: Re: 20040428:IDD Russia upstream request
> >
> >*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
> >Hello Jeff,
> >Thank you for your soon reply.
> >May I try to use the IDS stream?
> >With beat regards,
> >Val.
> >
> >Jeff Weber wrote:
> >
> >>Hello Val,
> >>
> >>This is exciting news to hear of your desire to participate in Unidata's
> >>IDD/LDM data delivery system.
> >>
> >>We had some interest about a year ago from the:
> >>
> >>Institute of Atmospheric Optics SB  RAS ( in Siberia )
> >>
> >>Most of our current data products are somewhat North America centric, but
> >>we do have some global models and the WMO surface obs, etc...
> >>
> >>To see a list of the data feeds we are currently offering please see:
> >>
> >>http://my.unidata.ucar.edu/content/software/ldm/ldm-6.0.14/basics/feedtypes/i
> > ndex.html
> >>
> >>
> >>After we determine what feeds you may desire we can designate an
> >>appropriate "upstream host" for you to "feed" from.
> >>
> >>
> >>traceroute to 83.149.207.80 (83.149.207.80), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
> >> 1  flra-n140 (128.117.140.252)  0.496 ms  0.340 ms  0.264 ms
> >> 2  gin-n243-80.ucar.edu (128.117.243.81)  0.479 ms  0.444 ms  0.410 ms
> >> 3  64.140.70.213 (64.140.70.213)  2.082 ms  1.837 ms  1.751 ms
> >> 4  170.147.161.93 (170.147.161.93)  2.224 ms  2.057 ms  1.888 ms
> >> 5  199.183.38.125 (199.183.38.125)  26.919 ms  27.454 ms  26.704 ms
> >> 6  peer03.sji-ca.icg.net (170.147.129.5)  26.873 ms  26.641 ms  27.239 ms
> >> 7  mae-west.cais.com (198.32.200.99)  27.889 ms  27.522 ms  27.314 ms
> >> 8  pos6-2.cr01.chc01.pccwbtn.net (63.216.14.42)  60.179 ms  60.354 ms
> >>60.185 ms
> >> 9  pos1-1.cr01.nyc01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.8.49)  161.230 ms  161.177 ms
> >>161.092 ms
> >>10  pos1-0.cr02.nyc01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.8.62)  325.404 ms  225.373 ms
> >>203.412 ms
> >>11  pos5-1.cr02.nyc02.pccwbtn.net (63.218.8.38)  161.141 ms  161.254 ms
> >>161.257 ms
> >>12  pos6-0.cr01.ldn01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.12.37)  160.684 ms  161.584 ms
> >>160.826 ms
> >>13  rbnet.pos4-0.cr01.ldn01.pccwbtn.net (63.218.13.130)  190.074 ms
> >>190.003 ms  190.698 ms
> >>14  195.209.14.29 (195.209.14.29)  209.201 ms  209.633 ms  209.283 ms
> >>15  195.209.14.155 (195.209.14.155)  209.727 ms  210.035 ms  210.169 ms
> >>16  PRAN-1-AT0-34.rasnet.ru (83.149.193.14)  211.670 ms  211.536 ms
> >>212.155 ms
> >>17  MIAN-2-VL10.rasnet.ru (83.149.192.37)  212.147 ms  211.575 ms  211.732
> >>ms
> >>18  83.149.207.80 (83.149.207.80)  554.574 ms  581.952 ms  607.169 ms
> >>
> >>
> >>Connect seems OK, slightly  concerned with the last hop, maybe a security
> >>app, or volume shaper as the last hop doubles the time to your machine.
> >>
> >>
> >>I look forward to working with you,
> >>
> >>Jeff
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>Jeff Weber                                    address@hidden        :
> >>Unidata Program Center                        PH:303-497-8676        :
> >>University Corp for Atmospheric Research      3300 Mitchell Ln       :
> >>http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/jweber      Boulder,Co 80307-3000  :
> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >>On Wed, 28 Apr 2004, Val N.Gloukhov wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
> >>>Dear UPC administrator,
> >>>Please provide me with the upstream feed site(s) for my LDM.
> >>>
> >>>Site name could be RCC MSU
> >>>Site administrator: Dr. Val N. Gloukhov (Reasearch Computing Center of
> >>>the Moscow State University, Russia)
> >>>Email: address@hidden
> >>>Phone: +7 095 9383918
> >>>Host name: val.inm.ras.ru (83.149.207.80)
> >>>
> >>>Thank you in advance.
> >>>Val.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> --
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