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>From: Bill Noon <address@hidden> >Organization: Cornell >Keywords: 200309191249.h8JCnrk1029145 IDD Bill, >Folks -- It looks like atm.geo.nsf.gov is no longer servicing LDM >requests. This started at just after 0Z today. I just logged onto atm and see that its LDM is running, is feeding 58 downstream connections, and has been running continuously for the past 7 days. Looking through the LDM log file, I see a failure to idd.nrcc.cornell.edu at 00:10:21 Z: Sep 19 00:10:21 atm.geo.nsf.gov idd(feed)[24347]: up6.c:288: nullproc_6() failur e to idd.nrcc.cornell.edu: RPC: Timed out Interpretation of this error is that an attempt by idd.cornell to flush the connection to atm failed due to an RPC timeout. This might be due to network congestion or some other network problem. Logs on atm show that the LDM there was running throughout this period and was servicing numerous downstream connections. I do see from the ancillary stats we log on atm that there was some sort of a network glitch right at the time you stopped feeding: Date/time 1, 5, 15 min load connections age mem swap wait rtstats ... 20030919.0009 0.15 0.30 0.51 55 7 62 8211 1070M 356M 1 1 20030919.0010 0.17 0.28 0.49 55 7 62 8272 1066M 361M 0 1 20030919.0011 2.64 1.11 0.78 51 7 58 8331 1078M 344M 25 0 20030919.0012 1.79 1.16 0.82 53 7 60 8392 1081M 350M 35 2 20030919.0013 0.78 0.99 0.78 54 7 61 8451 1086M 353M 2 2 20030919.0014 0.47 0.86 0.75 56 7 63 8470 1087M 359M 5 1 20030919.0015 0.38 0.77 0.72 55 7 62 8531 1086M 360M 1 1 ... The log messages at .0011 show that a number of connections went into some sort of a WAIT state (second column from right) at the same time the number of established downstream connections (5th column from left) dipped from 55 to 51). The LDM apparently recovered from this rapidly since the number of WAITing connections dropped back to 1 within 5 minutes and then number of active connections went back up to what it had been. Please try first an ldmping to atm and then a notifyme so we can try to understand why you are not able to connect. >I tried to fail idd.nrcc.cornell.edu over to motherlode or thelma and >they don't have idd.nrcc.cornell.edu authorized. I just checked, and you are allowed on thelma (all *.edu sites are). I verified the general allow by logging on to a machine at the University of Virginia and a machine at the University of North Carolina at Ashville both of which are explicitly not in thelma's allow list and I was able to do a notifymes to thelma showing that I could feed from thelma to them. Given that you are allowed on both atm and thelma and they are both up and servicing other requests, I have to believe that the problem is somehow localized to the Cornell I2 connection. I also verified that you are allowed on unidata2.ssec.wisc.edu, and it has the full complement of data. Try failing over to it. >I have pointed >snow.nrcc.cornell.edu to motherlode and it is getting fed but I pay for >every MB of data transfered to that machine. unidata2.ssec is on I2, so you shouldn't have the pay per byte issue there as long as idd.nrcc can connect over I2. If it can't due to some sort of problem with your I2 connection, I would say that you have a good case for not paying for the traffic over your commodity internet link. By the way, snow should be able to connect to atm and it has a lot more data in its LDM queue than motherlode. >Can you authorize idd.nrcc.cornell.edu on some backup machines for IDD >traffic? It already was on atm, thelma, and unidata2.ssec three of the top level IDD relays in the nation. I just added you to the LSU IDD top level relay, seistan.srcc.lsu.edu. I allowed any machine from the nrcc.cornell.edu domain: allow ANY-WSI-NLDN ^[a-z].*\.nrcc\.cornell.\edu$ so idd.nrcc and snow.nrcc should be able to connect there. seistan has about 5600 seconds of data in its queue at the moment. >Also, is there a machine that has more than a couple of hours of data >buffered in its queues? The machines with the largest queues are atm (4 GB) and thelma (6 GB). The age of the oldest product on atm is about 10800 seconds at the moment, so connecting to it would give you the most data. thelma has 12000 seconds. unidata2 has a 2 GB queue, and the age of the oldest product in its queue is over 5500 seconds at the moment. >Thanks -- Bill Noon Please keep us informed about your progress in getting idd connected back to atm over I2. >Northeast Regional Climate Center >Cornell University Tom Yoksas