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20030707: NCDC on IDD/CONDUIT (cont.)
- Subject: 20030707: NCDC on IDD/CONDUIT (cont.)
- Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 08:22:05 -0600
>From: "Alan Hall" <address@hidden>
>Organization: NOAA/NCDC
>Keywords: 200307071353.h67DrOLd016914 IDD NCDC
Alan,
>Thanks for the allow, however, the system is refusing my connection:
>
>[ldm@nomadsldm logs]$ ldmping atm.geo.nsf.gov
>Jul 07 13:51:17 State Elapsed Port Remote_Host rpc_stat
>Jul 07 13:51:17 ADDRESSED 0.054034 0 atm.geo.nsf.gov RPC: Unable to r
> eceive;
>errno = Connection reset by peer
There was a small error in the ldmd.conf allow line (.org instead of .gov
for nomadsldm) on atm. This has now been corrected, so your request should
work. Please let us know if you continue to experience problems.
Tom Yoksas
>Jeff Weber wrote:
>
>> Alan,
>>
>> I have allowed:
>> nomadsldm.ncdc.noaa.gov
>> to feed from:
>> atm.geo.nsf.gov
>>
>> Please let me know if you encounter any problems..
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Alan Hall wrote:
>>
>> > Jeff,
>> >
>> > What NCDC needs from the IDD are all GRID products. We do NOT need any TE
> XT,
>> > NEXRAD, or GOES products. A leaf node feeding from a tier 1 site would be
> best as
>> > NCDC does not want to re-distribute.
>> >
>> > CONDUIT can come at a later date and if possible after the changes to the
> data
>> > stream as discussed at the CONDUIT/CRAFT meeting last month.
>> >
>> > FQDN: nomadsldm.ncdc.noaa.gov IP: 205.167.25.170 LDM: 6.0.13
>> >
>> > Alan.
>> >
>> >
>> > Jeff Weber wrote:
>> >
>> > > Glenn and Alan,
>> > >
>> > > What is the full machine name we are going to be feeding?
>> > >
>> > > Thank you,
>> > >
>> > > Jeff
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > Jeff Weber address@hidden :
>> > > Unidata Program Center PH:303-497-8676 :
>> > > University Corp for Atmospheric Research 3300 Mitchell Ln :
>> > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/jweber Boulder,Co 80307-3000 :
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Glenn Rutledge wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > THanks Linda for forwarding this.
>> > > >
>> > > > Jeff- I've set a machine up and Alan Hall (NCDC) installed LDM. Alan
> is
>> > > > cc'ed herein (along with Danny Brinegar here at NCDC) to get the ball
>> > > > rolling.
>> > > >
>> > > > We are looking for a backup to the limited NOAAPOrt feed we already
>> > > > ingest. We will increase to CONDUIT level resolutions when we can.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks to all. Glenn
>> > > >
>> > > > Jeff Weber wrote:
>> > > > > Glenn,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Are there other data products you desire via the IDD ~other than the
>> > > > > CONDUIT feed?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Can I assume you have the LDM up and running on a machine?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If not please get and install version 6.0.13 and provide the fully
>> > > > > qualified hostname, that the LDM is running on, back to us.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Please see:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > http://my.unidata.ucar.edu/content/software/ldm/index.html
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thank you,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Jeff
>> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>> > > > > Jeff Weber address@hidden
> :
>> > > > > Unidata Program Center PH:303-497-8676
> :
>> > > > > University Corp for Atmospheric Research 3300 Mitchell Ln
> :
>> > > > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/jweber Boulder,Co 80307-3000
> :
>> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Linda Miller wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >>Hi Jeff,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Here's a note from Glenn Rutledge requesting top level IDD privileg
> es.
>> > > > >>I'm copying Chiz and Ben too. You and Chiz can work things out acco
> rdingly.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Thanks,
>> > > > >>Linda
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>---------- Forwarded Message ----------
>> > > > >>Date: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:04 PM -0400
>> > > > >>From: Glenn Rutledge <address@hidden>
>> > > > >>To: "Glenn.Rutledge" <address@hidden>, Jim Steenburgh
>> > > > >><address@hidden>, Chiz <address@hidden>
>> > > > >>Subject: Re: NCDC on IDD/CONDUIT
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Chiz, Ben and Jim (Jim has volunteered to act as the Unidata Rep for
>> > > > >>NOMADS),
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>I am ready here to hook into IDD for our NOAAPort backup and need IP
> 's or
>> > > > >>whatever is needed to hook into IDD. Alan Hall indicated that we (N
> CDC)
>> > > > >>could be a tear 1 site (not sure what that means).
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>We also will work to get on CONDUIT, but I wanted to go with IDD fir
> st,
>> > > > >>unless you feel we should just go with CONDUIT. The primary goal I
> need to
>> > > > >>fulfill is to backup our NOAAPort ingest for a better period of reco
> rd for
>> > > > >>the archive.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Please let me know. Thanks, Glenn
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Glenn.Rutledge wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>>Hello all-
>> > > > >>>I have been delayed somewhat getting on the IDD/CONDUIT and that de
> lay
>> > > > >>>would have continued until my next funding cycle (next Spring?) thr
> u my
>> > > > >>> NOMADS proposal. So I found a free PC system and 180Gb of disk an
> d we
>> > > > >>>are ready to work with you (Chiz et.al.), to get on. There are som
> e
>> > > > >>>items I would appreciate your comment on for before I embark on thi
> s
>> > > > >>>effort-
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>1) I'd like to use IDD/CONDUIT as a backup to our NOAAPort ingest/N
> OMADS
>> > > > >>>archive here at NCDC (see http://nomads.ncdc.noaa.gov/ncdc-ui/ncdc.
> html
>> > > > >>>). The plan is to work to install another LDM and have two feeds-
> the
>> > > > >>>NOAAPOrt, and the IDD; and compare/find missing data as required.
> Since
>> > > > >>>the grids/data are not identical I need to compare the delta's and
> have
>> > > > >>>a backup plan of operations; I plan to use the NOAAPort feed as th
> e
>> > > > >>>primary for several reasons: the NCDC NOMADS (w/ NOAAPort Grids) ar
> e
>> > > > >>>intended to service the "General Forecaster"- maybe the WFO forecas
> ter
>> > > > >>>writing a paper, etc.). The R/T NOMADS avbl at NCEP (and
>> > > > >>>retrospectively at NCDC), is intended to service requests from
>> > > > >>>University/Research community. The data now avbl at NCEP in real-t
> ime
>> > > > >>>will eventually be avbl retrospectively; as well as the GDAS SSI (m
> odel
>> > > > >>>input/re-run/ initialization files with programs to convert these
>> > > > >>>machine dependent data to standards (pressure sfc's, lat/lon, etc.)
> .
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>2) I'd like to use CONDUIT/IDD to act as a method to receive (some
> of)
>> > > > >>>the real-time (R/T) NOMADS holdings at NCEP. (see
>> > > > >>>http://140.90.198.156/index.html).
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>The GFS, Eta, and RUC avbl there are higher spatial/temporal
>> > > > >>>resolutions with a greater number of variables (then the NOAAPort).
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>I've worked to get about 10TB/yr of NCDC archive (rotating for 5 ye
> ars),
>> > > > >>> thru my proposals in FY05. So 10TB/yr is my limit (and this could
>> > > > >>>change!) So- I can't save it all, and the priority of what I save
> is
>> > > > >>>what Jordan plans to send me, (and what I believe he is making avbl
> on
>> > > > >>>his NOMADS). So unless CONDUIT/IDD adds the missing data sets, I'l
> l
>> > > > >>>just get a portion of these data from CONDUIT and the remainder fro
> m
>> > > > >>>NCEP directly. (btw- I hope to start archiving the hi-res data soo
> ner
>> > > > >>>then FY05).
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>I wanted input from you on this plan, and maybe get some help on fi
> nding
>> > > > >>>the delta's between what Jordan has, and what CONDUIT has, and may
> be
>> > > > >>>suggest that CONDUIT add these data. The idea is to have a
>> > > > >>>comprehensive system across NOMADS and CONDUIT for both real-time a
> nd
>> > > > >>>retrospective model input and output using both push/pull, and
>> > > > >>>distributed NOMADS slice and dice technologies. This will pave the
> way
>> > > > >>>for Regional model initialization with the GDAS or EDAS data sets a
> s well.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>Let me know if this makes sense! Sorry for the length. Glenn
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>---------- End Forwarded Message ----------
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>Linda Miller - address@hidden
>> > > > >>External Liaison, Unidata
>> > > > >>University Corporation for Atmospheric Research
>> > > > >>P.O. Box 3000
>> > > > >>Boulder, CO 80307-3000
>> > > > >>303-497-8646 fax: 303-497-8690
>> > > > >>URL: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/lmiller/un.act.html
>From address@hidden Mon Jul 7 08:35:29 2003
The data is flowing! Thanks for the quick fix.
Alan.