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Hello Luis, Ouch, the traceroutes to those sites are really not acceptable, especially the packet loss. I have forwarded this to Tom Yoksas, who may have some better approaches to obtain the data via ADDE. I am looking into the Caribbean subnet to see where the connect nodes are, and hopefully will be able to find a "nicer" route... More later, -Jeff ____________________________ _____________________ Jeff Weber address@hidden Unidata Support PH:303-497-8676 NWS-COMET Case Study Library FX:303-497-8690 University Corp for Atmospheric Research 3300 Mitchell Ln http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/jweber Boulder,Co 80307-3000 ________________________________________ ______________________ On Wed, 23 May 2001, Unidata Mcidas Account wrote: > Hi Jeff, > I think that what we really need is LDM(which is what we used to have > and will also allow us to save data locally for a given period of time, > right?), so as soon as I can I'll set it up. This will probably be > tomorrow. > Our connection depends mainly on the time of day. During work hours it > can get pretty bad, since we share our connection with a couple other UPR > campuses. In a couple of weeks, we're supposed to get a connection > upgrade, which will not be shared. > I think Tom Yoskas had been in contact with the former administrator > here. I read a couple of support emails he had sent. If you do a search > for "Karli Lopez" you may find some useful information. Here's something > I just found. > >----------------------------------- > >mcidas@breeze 10% cat MCTABLE.TXT > >ADDE_ROUTE_BLIZZARD=144.92.109.163 > >NICKNAME_GV4=BLIZZARD/G7-VIS-4K > >NICKNAME_GI4=BLIZZARD/G7-IR-4K > >ADDE_ROUTE_MYDATA=LOCAL-DATA > >NICKNAME_TI=MYDATA/TEST-IMAGES > >ADDE_ROUTE_PLANET=LOCAL-DATA > >NICKNAME_MV=BLIZZARD/M3-VIS > >NICKNAME_MI=MYDATA/IMAGES > >HOST_CIRRUS.AFIT.AF.MIL=129.92.2.88 > >HOST_REDWOOD.ATMOS.ALBANY.EDU=169.226.4.37 > >HOST_=207.51.48.20 > >HOST_RATMAN.WHOI.EDU=128.128.28.228 > >HOST_HAZE.ALDEN.COM=198.114.236.23 > >HOST_DRY.ATMOS.WASHINGTON.EDU=128.95.175.1 > >HOST_HOMER.GEOL.IASTATE.EDU=129.186.26.172 > >ADDE_ROUTE_RTWXTEXT=LOCAL-DATA > >NICKNAME_C-IR=MYDATA/CI > >NICKNAME_VI=IMGDISP > >ADDE_ROUTE_RTNIDS=LOCAL-DATA > >ADDE_ROUTE_RTNOWRAD=LOCAL-DATA > >ADDE_ROUTE_RTGRIDS=LOCAL-DATA > >ADDE_ROUTE_RTPTSRC=LOCAL-DATA > >ADDE_ROUTE_TOPO=LOCAL-DATA > >HOST_ZERO.UNIDATA.UCAR.EDU=128.117.140.56 > >ADDE_ROUTE_RTIMAGES=ZERO.UNIDATA.UCAR.EDU > >----------------------------------- > > > Here are the traceroutes you requested: > > > traceroute to sapodilla.rsmas.miami.edu (129.171.98.131), 30 hops max, 40 > byte packets > 1 136.145.164.1 (136.145.164.1) 0.625 ms 0.583 ms 0.534 ms > 2 r7200.uprm.edu (136.145.230.1) 0.891 ms 0.542 ms 0.538 ms > 3 136.145.218.1 (136.145.218.1) 14.479 ms 6.575 ms 19.272 ms > 4 brsprintlink2.UPR.CLU.EDU (136.145.1.2) 18.592 ms 15.007 ms 16.488 > ms > 5 sl-gw8-atl-10-0-0-TS5.sprintlink.net (144.232.220.41) 84.659 ms > sl-gw8-atl-10-0-0-TS4.sprintlink.net (144.232.220.57) 54.952 ms > sl-gw8-atl-10-0-0-TS5.sprintlink.net (144.232.220.41) > 84.826 ms > 6 sl-bb22-atl-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.12.203) 371.46 ms 357.819 ms > 360.196 ms > 7 ATM2-0.BR3.ATL5.ALTER.NET (137.39.52.137) 201.124 ms * 223.646 ms > 8 * * * > 9 * 195.ATM7-0.GW2.MIA4.ALTER.NET (146.188.233.185) 227.339 ms 217.925 > ms > 10 bs-oc3-miami2-gw.customer.alter.net (157.130.80.54) 250.876 ms > 255.679 ms * > 11 205.152.144.131 (205.152.144.131) 232.162 ms * 233.57 ms > 12 172.25.126.90 (172.25.126.90) 215.39 ms 254.794 ms 236.651 ms > 13 216.79.61.1 (216.79.61.1) 240.81 ms 249.958 ms * > 14 129.171.96.101 (129.171.96.101) 245.446 ms * 232.762 ms > 15 * sapodilla.rsmas.miami.edu (129.171.98.131) 243.015 ms 236.897 ms > > mcidas@atmos:~$ ping -c10 sapodilla.rsmas.miami.edu > PING sapodilla.rsmas.miami.edu (129.171.98.131): 56 octets data > 64 octets from 129.171.98.131: icmp_seq=0 ttl=48 time=241.0 ms > 64 octets from 129.171.98.131: icmp_seq=1 ttl=48 time=239.1 ms > 64 octets from 129.171.98.131: icmp_seq=2 ttl=48 time=217.1 ms > 64 octets from 129.171.98.131: icmp_seq=3 ttl=48 time=260.7 ms > 64 octets from 129.171.98.131: icmp_seq=4 ttl=48 time=224.0 ms > 64 octets from 129.171.98.131: icmp_seq=5 ttl=48 time=239.3 ms > 64 octets from 129.171.98.131: icmp_seq=6 ttl=48 time=202.8 ms > 64 octets from 129.171.98.131: icmp_seq=8 ttl=48 time=196.5 ms > 64 octets from 129.171.98.131: icmp_seq=9 ttl=48 time=243.9 ms > > --- sapodilla.rsmas.miami.edu ping statistics --- > 10 packets transmitted, 9 packets received, 10% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max = 196.5/229.3/260.7 ms > > > > > > > traceroute to pluto.met.fsu.edu (128.186.5.177), 30 hops max, 40 byte > packets > 1 136.145.164.1 (136.145.164.1) 0.679 ms 0.672 ms 0.549 ms > 2 r7200.uprm.edu (136.145.230.1) 0.588 ms 0.504 ms 0.532 ms > 3 136.145.218.1 (136.145.218.1) 9.222 ms 5.924 ms 10.262 ms > 4 brsprintlink2.UPR.CLU.EDU (136.145.1.2) 5.642 ms 17.176 ms 14.17 ms > 5 sl-gw8-atl-10-0-0-TS3.sprintlink.net (144.232.220.37) 101.783 ms > sl-gw8-atl-10-0-0-TS4.sprintlink.net (144.232.220.57) 84.709 ms > sl-gw8-atl-10-0-0-TS7.sprintlink.net (144.232.220.97) 80.129 ms > 6 sl-bb20-atl-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.12.193) 229.549 ms 208.089 > ms 255.666 ms > 7 sl-bb22-fw-11-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.18.21) 504.373 ms 438.828 ms > 472.42 ms > 8 sl-gw10-fw-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.0.164) 250.768 ms 257.708 ms > 255.848 ms > 9 sl-scfl-1-0-0-T3.sprintlink.net (144.228.134.10) 360.997 ms 281.287 > ms 243.265 ms > 10 fsu-bgp.tal.sprintnetops.net (199.44.5.226) 611.049 ms 503.632 ms > 621.338 ms > 11 vlan916.rsm.bfs.fsu.edu (128.186.250.17) 279.257 ms 319.532 ms > 362.176 ms > 12 vlan948.rsm.ucc.fsu.edu (128.186.250.49) 282.215 ms 328.707 ms > 292.515 ms > 13 * * fe40021.c7507.dsl.fsu.edu (128.186.250.37) 224.348 ms > 14 * pluto.met.fsu.edu (128.186.5.177) 240.998 ms * > > mcidas@atmos:~$ ping -c10 pluto.met.fsu.edu > PING pluto.met.fsu.edu (128.186.5.177): 56 octets data > 64 octets from 128.186.5.177: icmp_seq=0 ttl=242 time=245.2 ms > 64 octets from 128.186.5.177: icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=241.0 ms > 64 octets from 128.186.5.177: icmp_seq=2 ttl=242 time=235.3 ms > 64 octets from 128.186.5.177: icmp_seq=5 ttl=242 time=248.4 ms > 64 octets from 128.186.5.177: icmp_seq=6 ttl=242 time=231.9 ms > 64 octets from 128.186.5.177: icmp_seq=7 ttl=242 time=224.6 ms > 64 octets from 128.186.5.177: icmp_seq=8 ttl=242 time=236.2 ms > 64 octets from 128.186.5.177: icmp_seq=9 ttl=242 time=257.2 ms > > --- pluto.met.fsu.edu ping statistics --- > 10 packets transmitted, 8 packets received, 20% packet loss > round-trip min/avg/max = 224.6/239.9/257.2 ms > > > > traceroute to dante.geog.sc.edu (129.252.3.60), 30 hops max, 40 byte > packets > 1 136.145.164.1 (136.145.164.1) 0.928 ms 0.548 ms 0.551 ms > 2 r7200.uprm.edu (136.145.230.1) 0.544 ms 0.496 ms 0.542 ms > 3 136.145.249.1 (136.145.249.1) 6.389 ms 5.212 ms 5.358 ms > 4 brsprintlink2.UPR.CLU.EDU (136.145.1.2) 6.017 ms 5.637 ms 6.205 ms > 5 sl-gw8-atl-10-0-0-TS7.sprintlink.net (144.232.220.97) 109.086 ms > sl-gw8-atl-10-0-0-TS3.sprintlink.net (144.232.220.37) 84.266 ms 87.211 > ms > 6 sl-bb20-atl-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.12.193) 71.665 ms 91.767 ms > 61.896 ms > 7 sl-gw21-atl-9-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.12.18) 457.491 ms 438.929 ms > 346.929 ms > 8 sl-infoave-1-0.sprintlink.net (160.81.204.2) 216.5 ms 210.656 ms > 206.508 ms > 9 * * atm1-0-8.r02.scclma.infoave.net (165.166.126.11) 251.32 ms > 10 165.166.47.105 (165.166.47.105) 425.624 ms 232.233 ms * > 11 * * * > 12 * * * > 13 * * * > 14 * * * > 15 * * * > 16 * * * > 17 * * * > 18 * * * > > PING dante.geog.sc.edu (129.252.3.60): 56 octets data > > --- dante.geog.sc.edu ping statistics --- > 10 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss > > Again, Thank you for your help, > Luis Munoz > System Administrator > Caribbean Climate Center @ UPRM > > > > > > On Wed, 23 May 2001, Jeff Weber wrote: > > > Hi Luis, > > > > You have choices here.. > > > > You can access McIDAS data either via the LDM or the ADDE servers. > > > > The LDM will allow a constant (hopefully) stream of available data that > > fits your pre-set needs i.e. wavelength, area, resolution, etc... > > > > Or you can access the same data via the ADDE servers, in which you would > > be placing (executing) a command to deliver the area files..This also > > could be automated via a cron job or some other scripting mechanism. > > > > Previously, others from UPRM had wanted model data, and other products, > > which would require a dish or LDM operations to gather the data, but if > > all you want is the McIDAS imagery, we have the two options. > > > > > > Please let me know if my assumptions are accurate, and I will also bring > > this to Tom Yoksas (our McIDAS expert) and see if he sees any advantages > > or disadvantages to either option. > > > > In the meantime, we should check the level of connectivity UPRM is > > currently enjoying. > > > > Could you please perform traceroutes to: > > > > sapodilla.rsmas.miami.edu > > > > and > > > > pluto.met.fsu.edu > > > > and > > > > dante.geog.sc.edu > > > > from your machine that would host the LDM, and attach the results back to > > me please... > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > -Jeff > > ____________________________ _____________________ > > Jeff Weber address@hidden > > Unidata Support PH:303-497-8676 > > NWS-COMET Case Study Library FX:303-497-8690 > > University Corp for Atmospheric Research 3300 Mitchell Ln > > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/staff/jweber Boulder,Co 80307-3000 > > ________________________________________ ______________________ > > > >