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Steve, After exhuative pings and traceroutes and help from several people it looks like that the NASA connections are just plain bad sometimes, but the connection from psnldm to cyclone.atmo.arizona.edu is always bad, while the connection from wxmcidas to cyclone seems to be very good almost all of the time, so I have asked Mike Leuthold to change psnldm to wxmcidas and I will then send the feed on to psnldm. Robert Mullenax