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Michael, yep, that's a bug that i couldn't find the problem with a debugger either. bugs that can't be solved easily are not going to be worked on because gribtonc is being deprecated for the new Java decoder that's being used with our display software. the data nah.PERPW.grb dumped ok with the new Java decoder but i did notice that all the data was missing. to use the new decoder: One needs to download the toolsUI.jar from the netCDF java page, http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/netcdf-java/ set the classpath and run Grib2Netcdf in a script like: #/bin/csh -f set CP="<yourpathtoo>toolsUI-2.2.22.jar" java -Xmx512m -classpath $CP ucar.nc2.iosp.grib.Grib2Netcdf INPUT OUTPUT.NC Don't forget to add the INPUT grib file and OUTPUT.NC names. robb... ps if the conversion didn't work, you can look at the data with the ToolUI program by: java -Xmx512m -classpath $CP ucar.nc2.ui.ToolsUI Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: SZZ-243995 Department: Support netCDF Decoders Priority: Normal Status: Open