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i already changed the Dx and Dy units in the cdl to meters, now i changed the global "version" attribute to be 1.0 from 0.0. the changes are on motherlode too as well as a new decoders release. robb... =============================================================================== Robb Kambic Unidata Program Center Software Engineer III Univ. Corp for Atmospheric Research address@hidden WWW: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/ ===============================================================================