[IDD #DDD-259476]: "para" products

Art,

I think that the insertion of the parallel runs happened at NCEP
while I was out of town when they added new directories on their server 
and the insertion pattern they are using needs to be more restrictive.
I have sent in a request to NCEP to update their insertion pattern
and I am awaiting their reply.

Steve Chiswell
Unidata User Support

> Jeff,
> 
> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Unidata IDD Support wrote:
> 
> >> Jeff,
> >>
> >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007, Unidata IDD Support wrote:
> >>
> >>>> Hi...
> >>>>
> >>>> I've noticed that products with "data/nccf/com/gfs/para" in the IDD
> >>>> headers have recently started coming through on CONDUIT in addition to
> >>>> "data/nccf/com/gfs/prod" products.  Are the "para" products repeats of 
> >>>> the
> >>>> "prod" products, new data, or renamed data?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Art
> >>>>
> >>>> Arthur A. Person
> >>>> Research Assistant, System Administrator
> >>>> Penn State Department of Meteorology
> >>>> email:  address@hidden, phone:  814-863-1563
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Hi Art,
> >>>
> >>> I found this NWS TIN that kind of explains what is going on. Steve
> >>> Chiswell is our CONDUIT expert and he is currently on travel.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.weather.gov/om/notification/tin07-21GFS_upgrade-2.txt
> >>
> >> I don't see anything in there about file naming changes... and the
> >> implementation date was May 1, 2007.  The "para" stuff just started coming
> >> through last week, ~ July 25.
> >>
> >>> I ~believe the "para" stands for parallel runs that include the model 
> >>> upgrades.
> >>>
> >>> Also please see:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.weather.gov/os/notification/old/tin05-40_ruc_upgrade.txt
> >>
> >> This is regarding RUC implemented on June 28, 2005...  way too old.  And
> >> the "para" data I'm seeing is GFS data.
> >>
> >>> regarding the RUC processing.
> >>>
> >>> ..and the PARA site ;) is located at:
> >>>
> >>> http://usasearch.gov/search?affiliate=nws.noaa.gov&v%3Aproject=firstgov&query=para
> >>>
> >>> I hope this helps.
> >>
> >> Okay... thanks for trying.  Maybe I'll wait 'til Steve gets back...  :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Art
> >>
> >>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>> Jeff Weber
> >>> Unidata User Support
> >>> http://www.unidata.ucar.edu
> >>>
> >>> Ticket Details
> >>> ===================
> >>> Ticket ID: DDD-259476
> >>> Department: Support IDD
> >>> Priority: Normal
> >>> Status: Open
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Arthur A. Person
> >> Research Assistant, System Administrator
> >> Penn State Department of Meteorology
> >> email:  address@hidden, phone:  814-863-1563
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hi Art,
> >
> > I threw in the RUC URL just in case, but the GFS implementation was to
> > take place May 1 2007, and it could have been delayed.
> >
> > Here is another resource that may be of value:
> >
> > http://wwwt.emc.ncep.noaa.gov/gmb/para/paralog.gsihybrid.html
> >
> > Given the use of the semantic "para" I do suspect they are parallel runs.
> 
> This looks a lot closer.  If that's what it is, the next question becomes
> whether it's supposed to be on CONDUIT.  The data take an additional 11
> GB/day of bandwidth.
> 
> > Perhaps Steve can provide greater insight upon his return
> 
> Okay... thanks.
> 
> Art
> 
> 
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > Jeff Weber
> > Unidata User Support
> > http://www.unidata.ucar.edu
> >
> > Ticket Details
> > ===================
> > Ticket ID: DDD-259476
> > Department: Support IDD
> > Priority: Normal
> > Status: Open
> >
> >
> 
> Arthur A. Person
> Research Assistant, System Administrator
> Penn State Department of Meteorology
> email:  address@hidden, phone:  814-863-1563
> 
> 


Ticket Details
===================
Ticket ID: DDD-259476
Department: Support CONDUIT
Priority: Urgent
Status: Closed