[AWIPS #PEA-673558]: Grid products have stopped working on AWIPS

Hi Glenn,

> An additional follow-up.  I ran AWIPS/Cave on an old Mac with an old system. 
> Yes, the data is available. 
> 
> Getting back to my main iMac,I had just updated to Monterey 12.3  earlier in 
> the
> week....then the problems started....
>
> As you probably know, Apple has deliberately deleted/removed Python 2.6/2.7 
> from
> the newest Monterey release (v 12.3). Upgrading to Monterey 12.3 intentionally
> deletes it.
> I am guessing that AWIPS requires Python 2.x and that is why AWIPS is not 
> getting
> or displaying model GRID data from the AWIPS browser menu. (I'm reluctant to 
> install
> re-install Python 2 on Monterey.) 
>
> I tried a removal of CAVE/AWIPS and a deletion of the caveData folder from the
> ~/Library directory.  I reinstalled the python package and AWIPS. It did not 
> solve
> the problem.
> I know there had been a mention and concern on the website about warnings upon
> launch of AWIPS/Cave with Monterey 12.01.   I think Monterey 12.3 may have 
> been a
> fatal blow to the software's functionality. 

Thank you for the additional information.
What do you mean, exactly, by not being able to retrieve the data/the data is 
not 
available?  Are you loading data through the menus, product browser, or volume 
browser?
Do you ever end up with any errors in AlertView?  You can open AlertView by 
going to
this menu option:  CAVE > Open Open AlertView

You might be on to something with the python removal though.  Our current 
version of
CAVE still uses Python2.7, so at the very least there are definitely some other 
features that won't work for sure.

One alternative that might work for you... Are you able to install any kind of 
VM 
software?  VirtualBox or something like that?  You could possibly run a 
previous 
version of Mac (not super likely because I don't think they virtualize well) or 
an
installation of CentOS7 and then run CAVE in that?  One downside of running in 
a 
VM that we are aware of: it cannot render RGB products (satellite), so if that 
is 
important to you, this might not be a feasible solution.


--Shay Carter

She/Her/Hers
AWIPS Software Engineer
UCAR - Unidata

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Ticket Details
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Ticket ID: PEA-673558
Department: Support AWIPS
Priority: Normal
Status: Open
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