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Hi John, Glad you figured it out! I was playing around with different users last night as well and was seeing the same behavior. And I can confirm that ssh-ing to awips causes it to fail. I'm thinking maybe it's an environmental path issue, but I'm still slightly puzzled. You *should* be able to also run cave as your John user as well. Thanks, Tiffany Meyer AWIPS Lead Software Engineer UCAR-Unidata Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: FWZ-588086 Department: Support AWIPS Priority: Normal Status: Open =================== NOTE: All email exchanges with Unidata User Support are recorded in the Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made publicly available through the web. If you do not want to have your interactions made available in this way, you must let us know in each email you send to us.