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>From: "Jennie L. Moody" <address@hidden> >Organization: UVa >Keywords: 199907281535.JAA02200 McIDAS-X XCD 7.60 upgrading Jennie, First, to answer your subject line question: No, the new schemas need updated XCD versions which means that McIDAS-XCD should be upgraded in lockstep with McIDAS-X. re: upgrade McIDAS-X and McIDAS-XCD in lock step >Then, because I noted I wanted to keep running 7.4, you said: re: list of recommendations >Did all this > >> make install.all <-- this installs under /home/mcidas/mcidas76 > >Haven't done this yet, but looked at makefile, and install.all doesn't >seem to be an option?? did you mean something else? No. make install.all _is_ an option. It was apparently left out of the information header in 'makefile', but it is there. The end of makefile shows the various options: ###################################################################### #------- # miscellaneous dependencies #------- install.mcx :: env install.mcx :: install.bin install.help install.data install.mcx :: install.scripts install.admin install.mcx :: install.tcl install.mcwish install.gui install.mcxall :: install.mcx install.mcxall :: install.inc install.lib install.man uninstall.mcx :: env uninstall.mcx :: uninstall.bin uninstall.help uninstall.data uninstall.mcx :: uninstall.scripts uninstall.admin uninstall.mcx :: uninstall.tcl uninstall.mcwish uninstall.gui uninstall.mcxall :: uninstall.mcx uninstall.mcxall :: uninstall.inc uninstall.lib uninstall.man install.xcd :: install.xcdbin install.xcdhelp install.xcddata install.xcdall :: install.xcd install.xcdinc install.xcdlib uninstall.xcd :: uninstall.xcdbin uninstall.xcdhelp uninstall.xcddata uninstall.xcdall :: uninstall.xcd uninstall.inc uninstall.xcdlib install : install.mcx install.mcxxcd : install.mcx install.xcd install.all : install.mcxall install.xcdall uninstall : uninstall.mcx uninstall.mcxxcd : uninstall.mcx uninstall.xcd uninstall.all : uninstall.mcxall uninstall.xcdall ###################################################################### In this list you can see that install.all is actually an install.mcxall and an install.xcdall. >But anyway, the main reason I paused is this: If I install the >new McIDAS, and it needs a new version of ldm-mcidas, which >uses new SCHEMA, then won't my old version of mcidas (7.4) stop >working with the real-time (ie., incoming, ldm-decoded) data? >Incompatible SCHEMAS?? Actually, the new ldm-mcidas needs to be linked against the new version of McIDAS-X, not the other way around. This is, of course, if you decide to build ldm-mcidas from source and not use the binaries that are available. If you install the new McIDAS-X and XCD then they will use the new schemas. In this transition, you will have to either delete existing MD files for the day in which the installation is done and switchover made, or you will have to do the installation/switchover at 0Z so new MD files will not have been created yet. The big change in the schemas is in the DAY keys. In old schema, DAY was specified in units SYD which is SSYYDDD. Here SS could be the sensor source for imagery, but it has not been used in quite a long time, so the effective format was YYDDD. The new schemas specify DAY to be in units of CYD which is CCYYDDD. This is the Y2K compatible stuff. >Before I create this problem, >I am trying to figure out if I can REALLY have two versions >running...maybe its different for you since you might not be >working with the real-time datastream when you test things out?? McIDAS-X 7.60 routines will work with MD files that use the old schema. If you install 7.60 and do not overwrite the 7.40 stuff (like SCHEMA) and you keep using 7.40 XCD routines, then everything should continue to work. You will, however, have to upgrade to use of 7.60 XCD before the end of the year. >I appreciate the hand-holding. Just proceeding cautiously, >trying to keep the wv stuff from breaking, especially since >several people asked for the URL to look at the >real-time specific-humidity after the NESDIS meeting, which seemed >to go well. The great majority of the Y2K mods are in the MD file stuff. Your water vapor processing should continue to work. I can't guarantee this, however, since I don't know all of what you are actually doing (the ole cover your butt response :-). Tom -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ * Tom Yoksas UCAR Unidata Program * * (303) 497-8642 (last resort) P.O. Box 3000 * * address@hidden Boulder, CO 80307 * * Unidata WWW Service http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/* +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+