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[LDM #MIY-170840]: One of our two LDM servers is having problems
- Subject: [LDM #MIY-170840]: One of our two LDM servers is having problems
- Date: Wed, 17 May 2017 15:50:34 -0600
Hi Brian, Tom and Jennifer,
Brian wrote:
> the -flush made it worse.
The only thing I can imagine that would cause this is if the file system
being written to is _very_ slow.
re:
> I have turned off the LDM on colaweb, while we try the test
> on cola6.
OK.
Questions:
- is cola6.gmu.edu a VM also?
If yes, is the virtualization environment the same as for colaweb?
- where is the LDM queue located?
What I mean, is if your LDM queue is located on an NFS-mounted file
system. If it is, this may be the cause of your problems.
Comments:
- we define the product latency as the time difference between the receipt
of a product by the local LDM (when the product is inserted into the
local LDM queue) and the time that the product was first inserted into
an LDM queue for relay.
- the slowness of writes by LDM FILE actions _should_ have nothing
to do with product latencies
The only exception to the notion that file system writes should have
nothing to do with receipt latencies is when the LDM queue is located
on a file system where writes are _very_ slow. It is for this reason
that we advise LDM users to _never_ put their LDM queue on an NFS-mounted
file system.
- I run a CentOS 6.9 x86_64 VM instance inside of VMware Player that is
running on my Windows 7 laptop, and I have run an LDM that was FILEing
all NEXRAD3 products to a file system inside of the VM, and I experienced
no write-related problems.
I must quickly add, however, that I did not run the ingest and FILEing for
NEXRAD3 products for a long period of time, so it is possible that "things"
would have become bound up if I had run for long "enough".
- other users are running LDMs in VMs in a couple different types of
virtualization environments (e.g., VMware and virtualbox come to mind),
and none have contacted us with problems of high latencies or impaired
ability to write products to disk
In fact, the toplevel IDD nodes that relay CONDUIT are VMware-hosted VMs,
and CONDUIT has a lot more products and much, much more volume than
IDS|DDPLUS. To get an idea of the number of products and volumes of
the significant IDD data feeds, consider the following summary statistics
from a motherlode-class machine that we run here in Unidata:
Data Volume Summary for lead.unidata.ucar.edu
Maximum hourly volume 70976.622 M bytes/hour
Average hourly volume 44292.075 M bytes/hour
Average products per hour 412439 prods/hour
Feed Average Maximum Products
(M byte/hour) (M byte/hour) number/hour
FSL2 14616.139 [ 32.999%] 17570.506 22496.596
CONDUIT 8488.236 [ 19.164%] 23905.443 96092.234
NGRID 6828.765 [ 15.418%] 12763.837 41711.787
NEXRAD2 6439.101 [ 14.538%] 9712.475 70899.021
NOTHER 3629.480 [ 8.194%] 7077.190 6937.000
NEXRAD3 2092.125 [ 4.723%] 2924.046 96889.149
FNMOC 1223.423 [ 2.762%] 4410.106 3395.340
HDS 300.532 [ 0.679%] 537.559 26194.447
NIMAGE 203.051 [ 0.458%] 350.919 202.511
GEM 180.209 [ 0.407%] 870.590 1084.681
FNEXRAD 125.649 [ 0.284%] 154.638 104.936
IDS|DDPLUS 70.652 [ 0.160%] 80.433 45867.702
UNIWISC 66.133 [ 0.149%] 116.881 47.894
EXP 26.623 [ 0.060%] 47.300 219.255
LIGHTNING 1.958 [ 0.004%] 5.673 296.383
Please keep us apprised of your attempts of running the LDM on your
cola6 machine.
Cheers,
Tom
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Ticket Details
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Ticket ID: MIY-170840
Department: Support LDM
Priority: Normal
Status: Closed
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