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Hi Brian, Tom and Jennifer, Brian wrote: > the -flush made it worse. The only thing I can imagine that would cause this is if the file system being written to is _very_ slow. re: > I have turned off the LDM on colaweb, while we try the test > on cola6. OK. Questions: - is cola6.gmu.edu a VM also? If yes, is the virtualization environment the same as for colaweb? - where is the LDM queue located? What I mean, is if your LDM queue is located on an NFS-mounted file system. If it is, this may be the cause of your problems. Comments: - we define the product latency as the time difference between the receipt of a product by the local LDM (when the product is inserted into the local LDM queue) and the time that the product was first inserted into an LDM queue for relay. - the slowness of writes by LDM FILE actions _should_ have nothing to do with product latencies The only exception to the notion that file system writes should have nothing to do with receipt latencies is when the LDM queue is located on a file system where writes are _very_ slow. It is for this reason that we advise LDM users to _never_ put their LDM queue on an NFS-mounted file system. - I run a CentOS 6.9 x86_64 VM instance inside of VMware Player that is running on my Windows 7 laptop, and I have run an LDM that was FILEing all NEXRAD3 products to a file system inside of the VM, and I experienced no write-related problems. I must quickly add, however, that I did not run the ingest and FILEing for NEXRAD3 products for a long period of time, so it is possible that "things" would have become bound up if I had run for long "enough". - other users are running LDMs in VMs in a couple different types of virtualization environments (e.g., VMware and virtualbox come to mind), and none have contacted us with problems of high latencies or impaired ability to write products to disk In fact, the toplevel IDD nodes that relay CONDUIT are VMware-hosted VMs, and CONDUIT has a lot more products and much, much more volume than IDS|DDPLUS. To get an idea of the number of products and volumes of the significant IDD data feeds, consider the following summary statistics from a motherlode-class machine that we run here in Unidata: Data Volume Summary for lead.unidata.ucar.edu Maximum hourly volume 70976.622 M bytes/hour Average hourly volume 44292.075 M bytes/hour Average products per hour 412439 prods/hour Feed Average Maximum Products (M byte/hour) (M byte/hour) number/hour FSL2 14616.139 [ 32.999%] 17570.506 22496.596 CONDUIT 8488.236 [ 19.164%] 23905.443 96092.234 NGRID 6828.765 [ 15.418%] 12763.837 41711.787 NEXRAD2 6439.101 [ 14.538%] 9712.475 70899.021 NOTHER 3629.480 [ 8.194%] 7077.190 6937.000 NEXRAD3 2092.125 [ 4.723%] 2924.046 96889.149 FNMOC 1223.423 [ 2.762%] 4410.106 3395.340 HDS 300.532 [ 0.679%] 537.559 26194.447 NIMAGE 203.051 [ 0.458%] 350.919 202.511 GEM 180.209 [ 0.407%] 870.590 1084.681 FNEXRAD 125.649 [ 0.284%] 154.638 104.936 IDS|DDPLUS 70.652 [ 0.160%] 80.433 45867.702 UNIWISC 66.133 [ 0.149%] 116.881 47.894 EXP 26.623 [ 0.060%] 47.300 219.255 LIGHTNING 1.958 [ 0.004%] 5.673 296.383 Please keep us apprised of your attempts of running the LDM on your cola6 machine. Cheers, Tom -- **************************************************************************** Unidata User Support UCAR Unidata Program (303) 497-8642 P.O. Box 3000 address@hidden Boulder, CO 80307 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unidata HomePage http://www.unidata.ucar.edu **************************************************************************** Ticket Details =================== Ticket ID: MIY-170840 Department: Support LDM Priority: Normal Status: Closed =================== NOTE: All email exchanges with Unidata User Support are recorded in the Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made publicly available through the web. If you do not want to have your interactions made available in this way, you must let us know in each email you send to us.