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Re: 20030820: Weather2.admin.niu.edu Trouble



just an FYI, that dropped packet isn't actually lost, its a 10.*.*.*
network router within NIU.  So since its private network address as we
know so that would be why you are having drops since your routers dont
know how to route to 10. on the niu network :)
-dave

On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Tom Yoksas wrote:

>From:  "Kevin W. Thomas" <address@hidden>
>Organization:  UCAR/Unidata
>Keywords:  200308202000.h7KK04Ld017925 IDD traceroute ldmping

Kevin and Gilbert,

RE:
>>What LDM are you running? If not 6.014, an upgrade should solve that.
>>Maybe OU is blocking incoming 388 as a suspect DOS attack?
>
>We're running an older LDM, however, I don't think that is the problem.
>I can't reach your web site from OU.
>
>Traceroute shows:
>
>traceroute to weather2.admin.niu.edu (131.156.8.58), 30 hops max, 40 byte pack
> ets
> 1  129.15.192.1 (129.15.192.1)  0.682 ms  0.697 ms  0.399 ms
> 2  192.168.255.233 (192.168.255.233)  0.748 ms  0.635 ms  1.283 ms
> 3  164.58.10.97 (164.58.10.97)  1.471 ms  1.524 ms  0.944 ms
> 4  164.58.10.213 (164.58.10.213)  1.522 ms  1.562 ms  1.125 ms
> 5  164.58.10.158 (164.58.10.158)  1.795 ms  1.811 ms  1.736 ms
> 6  tulsok6wcx2-pos2-0.wcg.net (64.200.227.105)  3.902 ms  3.239 ms  3.569 ms
> 7  64.200.240.81 (64.200.240.81)  9.740 ms  9.631 ms  9.315 ms
> 8  dllstx1wcx2-pos9-0.wcg.net (64.200.110.129)  9.624 ms  9.879 ms  9.481 ms
> 9  dllstx9lce1-oc48.wcg.net (64.200.110.82)  9.094 ms  9.338 ms  9.120 ms
>10  dllstx9lce1-level3-pos.wcg.net (64.200.110.150)  9.231 ms  9.473 ms  9.654
>  ms
>11  so-1-2-0.bbr1.Dallas1.level3.net (209.244.15.161)  9.197 ms  9.218 ms  9.0
> 98 ms
>12  209.247.9.82 (209.247.9.82)  32.800 ms  33.080 ms  33.074 ms
>13  gige9-0.hsipaccess1.Chicago1.Level3.net (64.159.1.226)  32.722 ms  32.977 
> ms  32.477 ms
>14  h5-0-0-1.niu.bbnplanet.net (4.0.201.174)  105.053 ms  35.244 ms  37.023 ms
>15  131.156.168.1 (131.156.168.1)  37.193 ms  37.536 ms  36.391 ms
>16  * * *

We can successfully do a traceroute and ldmping from the UPC to Gilbert's
machine, weather2.admin.niu.edu:

% traceroute to weather2.admin.niu.edu (131.156.8.58), 30 hops max, 40 byte 
packets
 1  flra-n140 (128.117.140.252)  1 ms  0 ms  0 ms
 2  gin-n243-80.ucar.edu (128.117.243.81)  1 ms  1 ms  1 ms
 3  64.140.70.213 (64.140.70.213)  2 ms  2 ms  2 ms
 4  170.147.161.94 (170.147.161.94)  3 ms  3 ms  2 ms
 5  199.183.38.6 (199.183.38.6)  28 ms  28 ms  28 ms
 6  peer01.sji-ca.icg.net (170.147.129.3)  27 ms  32 ms  28 ms
 7  170.147.0.74 (170.147.0.74)  29 ms  28 ms  28 ms
 8  GigabitEthernet1-0-108.edge1.paix-sjo1.Level3.net (209.245.146.197)  32 ms  
32 ms  32 ms
 9  GigabitEthernet3-2.core1.SanJose1.Level3.net (209.244.3.253)  31 ms  32 ms  
32 ms
10  ae0-52.mp2.SanJose1.Level3.net (64.159.2.33)  32 ms  31 ms  31 ms
11  so-0-0-0.bbr1.Chicago1.level3.net (209.247.9.78)  54 ms  54 ms  55 ms
12  gige8-0.hsipaccess1.Chicago1.Level3.net (64.159.1.222)  54 ms  54 ms  54 ms
13  h5-0-0-1.niu.bbnplanet.net (4.0.201.174)  59 ms  57 ms  57 ms
14  131.156.168.1 (131.156.168.1)  58 ms  58 ms  57 ms
15  * * *
16  weather2.admin.niu.edu (131.156.8.58)  87 ms^C

% ldmping weather2.admin.niu.edu
Aug 20 20:02:00      State    Elapsed Port   Remote_Host           rpc_stat
Aug 20 20:02:00 RESPONDING   0.237881  388   weather2.admin.niu.edu  
Aug 20 20:02:25 RESPONDING   0.068136  388   weather2.admin.niu.edu  
Aug 20 20:02:50 RESPONDING   0.062403  388   weather2.admin.niu.edu  
Aug 20 20:03:16 RESPONDING   0.063707  388   weather2.admin.niu.edu  
Aug 20 20:03:41 RESPONDING   0.071672  388   weather2.admin.niu.edu  

Given that the traceroute path from us to Gilbert is goes through the
same node, 131.156.168.1, and we can get through, it is likely that
the problem has either cleared itself up, or your access is being
blocked.

Tom
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