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Pat, Here are the raw NOAAPORT obs I have. These are already translated to lat/lon in our reception. ARP COA64 3946N 8507W 0206 F330 MS53 275/102KT= ARP COA64 41N 060W 0239 F330 MS53 283/122KT= ARP COA64 42N 050W 0327 F330 MS46 243/120KT WX MID 4136N055W MS46^M 270090= ARP N573AC 4530N 12643W 2203 F350 MS37 339/089KT WX NO SIG WEA= ARP N573AC 4405N 13000W 2225 F350 MS64 356/072KT= ARP N573AC 4151N 13428W 2256 F350 MS60 018/057KT= ARP N573AC 3838N 14000W 2336 F380 MS59 021/063KT= ARP N573AC 3111N 15000W 0105 F380 MS50 305/086KT TB LGT PATCHS OF^M TURBC LAST HOUR OR SO= ARP N573AC 0S 56E 0207 F380 MS55 290/081KT= ANZ10 3006S 17912E 0202 F330 MS30 300/50= ANZ10 3001S 17902E 0202 F330 MS30 300/050= ANZ10 3000S 17900E 0202 F330 MS30 300/50= ANZ10 2500S 17801E 0245 F330 MS37 360/010= ANZ10 2500S 17800E 0245 F330 MS37 360/10= ANZ10 2500S 17806W 0245 F330 MS37 360/10= ANZ10 2000S 17536W 0327 F330 MS37 090/025= ANZ10 2000S 17536W 0327 F330 MS37 090/25= ANZ10 1508S 17321W 0408 F350 MS43 110/020= ANZ10 1506S 17324W 0408 F350 MS43 110/20= ANZ10 1000S 17106W 0451 F350 MS43 180/020= ANZ10 1000S 17106W 0451 F350 MS43 180/20= PAO732 3000S 17907E 2336 F360 MS45 297/053= PAO732 3000S 17906E 2336 F360 MS45 297/53= PAO732 3000S 17942E 2336 F360 MS45 297/53= PAO732 2500S 17702W 0020 F350 MS47 LV= PAO732 2500S 17700W 0020 F350 MS47 360/00= PAO732 2500S 17712W 0020 F360 MS47 360/00= ARP BWA900 18N 056W 0245 F330 MS42 285/040KT= ARP BWA900 27N 050W 0401 F330 MS48 270/045KT= ARP BWA900 34N 040W 0518 F330 MS49 250/055KT WX 3040N045W MS49 250040= ARP BWA900 39N031W 0619 F330 MS50 250/70 MID 3715N03500W MS50 250/60= Steve Chiswell Unidata User Support >From: "Pauley, Dr. Pat" <address@hidden> >Organization: UCAR/Unidata >Keywords: 200201222350.g0MNoex13783 >Steve, > >My interest right now is in tracking down the source of >position discrepancies in what otherwise are duplicates. > >Here are a few examples that I would greatly appreciate >you looking up the corresponding raw reports, if it's >not too much trouble! I've listed the reports as I see >them, followed by the corresponding raw reports (as we >get them from Tinker AFB after any waypoints have been >translated into lat-lon positions). In some cases, I >see two reports when three have come in, which means that >two are so close together that one is rejected by the >duplicate checker. > >Thanks so much! >Pat > > >Dataset for 21Z 16 Jan - 03Z 17 Jan 2002 >---------------------------------------- > Discrepancy in position (typo in waypoint name?) >COA64 2: 6: 0 41.12 -67.00 32999. 220.16 275. 52.0 >COA64 2: 6: 0 39.77 -85.12 32999. 220.16 275. 52.0 > >COA64 4107N 06700W 0206 F330 M53 275102= >COA64 3946N 08507W 0206 F330 M53 275/102= > > Discrepancy in position (typo in waypoint name?) >N573AC 2: 7: 0 26.03 -155.58 37999. 218.16 290. 42.0 >N573AC 2: 7: 0 .00 56.00 37999. 218.16 290. 42.0 > >N573AC 2602N 15535W 0207 F380 M55 290081= >N573AC 0000S 05600E 0207 F380 M55 290/081= > >Dataset for 21Z 17 Jan - 03Z 18 Jan 2002 >---------------------------------------- > Discrepancy in position (South Pacific) >ANZ10 2: 2: 0 -30.10 179.20 32999. 243.16 300. 26.0 >ANZ10 2: 2: 0 -30.02 179.03 32999. 243.16 300. 26.0 > >ANZ10 3006S 17912E 0202 F330 M30 300/50= >ANZ10 3001S 17902E 0202 F330 M30 300/050= >ANZ10 3000S 17900E 0202 F330 M30 300/50= > > Discrepancy in position (South Pacific) >ANZ10 2:45: 0 -25.00 -178.10 32999. 236.16 0. 5.0 >ANZ10 2:45: 0 -25.00 178.02 32999. 236.16 0. 5.0 > >ANZ10 2500S 17801E 0245 F330 M37 360/010= >ANZ10 2500S 17806W 0245 F330 M37 360/10= >ANZ10 2500S 17800E 0245 F330 M37 360/10= > > Discrepancy in position (South Pacific) >PAO732 23:36: 0 -30.00 179.70 36001. 228.16 297. 27.0 >PAO732 23:36: 0 -30.00 179.12 36001. 228.16 297. 27.0 > >PAO732 3000S 17907E 2336 F360 M45 297/053= >PAO732 3000S 17942E 2336 F360 M45 297/53= >PAO732 3000S 17906E 2336 F360 M45 297/53= > > Discrepancy in position (South Pacific) >PAO732 0:20: 0 -25.00 -177.00 35000. 226.16 0. .0 >PAO732 0:20: 0 -25.00 -177.20 36001. 226.16 0. .0 > >PAO732 2500S 17702W 0020 F350 M47 LV= >PAO732 2500S 17712W 0020 F360 M47 360/00= >PAO732 2500S 17700W 0020 F350 M47 360/00= > > >Dataset for 03Z - 09Z 18 Jan 2002 >------------------------------- > Discrepancy in position (North Atlantic) >BWA900 6:19: 0 39.00 -31.00 32999. 223.16 250. 36.0 >BWA900 6:19: 0 39.45 -31.17 32999. 223.16 250. 36.0 > >BWA900 3927N 03110W 0619 F330 M50 250/70= >BWA900 3900N 03100W 0619 F330 M50 250/70 MID 3715N03500W MS50 >BWA900 3900N 03100W 0619 F330 M50 250/70 MID 3715N03500W MS50 > > > >Patricia M. Pauley >Meteorologist, Data Assimilation Group >Naval Research Laboratory Phone: (831) 656-4802 >7 Grace Hopper Avenue Fax: (831) 656-4769 >Monterey, CA 93943-5502 email: address@hidden > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Unidata Support [mailto:address@hidden] >Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 3:38 PM >To: Pauley, Dr. Pat >Cc: 'Unidata Support' >Subject: 20020122: 20020118: Source of AIREP data > > > >Pat, > >I have the last 30 days of the NOAAPORT products from the DDPLUS >data stream. > >I can see if it is possible for me to figure out what report >I have that is comparable to your report. > >In looking at the data, it appears that the obs that are >from flight numbers look to be in lat/lon groups. EG, >ARP KAL002 38N 140W 2105 F340 MS54 010/027KT= > >The UB.. reports look to use the waypoints. > >Steve Chiswell >Unidata User Support > > > > >>From: "Pauley, Dr. Pat" <address@hidden> >>Organization: UCAR/Unidata >>Keywords: 200201222304.g0MN4xx11503 > >>Steve, >> >>If I give you some recent obs as I see them, could you >>find the original (undecoded) reports and send them >>to me? Id so, how recent would these have to be? >> >>Thanks! >>Pat >> >> >>Patricia M. Pauley >>Meteorologist, Data Assimilation Group >>Naval Research Laboratory Phone: (831) 656-4802 >>7 Grace Hopper Avenue Fax: (831) 656-4769 >>Monterey, CA 93943-5502 email: address@hidden >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Unidata Support [mailto:address@hidden] >>Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 3:02 PM >>To: Pauley, Dr. Pat >>Cc: 'address@hidden'; address@hidden >>Subject: 20020118: Source of AIREP data >> >> >> >>Pat, >> >>It looks like the AIREP data on NOAAPORT can be either lat/lon >>or waypoints. The UB.. look to be more of the latter. >> >>GEMPAK 5.6 does have a decoder for the AIREP/AMDARs carried on NOAAPORT. >>These are the data that Bob Creasy would be obtaining from our IDD. >>So, if he can store the in files for you that is what I could give you. >> >>My decoder pattern looks like: >># >># Decoder for Aircraft Observations >>DDPLUS|IDS (^U[ABDR].... ....|^XRXX84 KAWN|^YIXX84 KAWN) >>([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9]) >> PIPE decoders/dcacft -e GEMTBL=/home/gempak/NAWIPS/gempak/tables >> -d data/gempak/logs/dcacft.log >> data/gempak/acft/YYYYMMDDHH_acf.gem >> >>The GEMPAK decoder does use a AIREP waypoints translation table as well as >a >>PIREP navaids table. The waypoints table is: >>$GEMTBL/stns/airep_waypnts.tbl >> >>From a bulletin "UBUS1 KNKA 222058" which contains the report: >> >>ADQ UA /OV ADQ-ODK270021/TM 2008/FL130/TP C130/SK OVC001/TOPS130/WX >> FV01 SN/TB NEG/IC NEG= >> >>I get the following decoder output: >> >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [DCACFT 1] 035 UBUS1 KNKA 222058 >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [GEMPAK 1] ADQ UA /OV ADQ-ODK270021/TM 2008/FL130/TP >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [GEMPAK 1] C130/SK OVC001/TOPS130/WX FV01 SN/TB >NEG/IC >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [GEMPAK 1] NEG >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] <-----BEGIN INTERFACE OUTPUT-----> >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [DC 2] ACTP : C130 >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [DC 2] RSID : ADQ >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [DC 2] SLAT SLON FLVL VSBY >YEAR >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [DC 2] 57.76 -152.74 13000.00 1.00 >>2002.00 >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [DC 2] MNTH DAYS HOUR MINU >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [DC 2] 1.00 22.00 20.00 8.00 >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] NTRB DGOT HBOT HTOT >FQOT >>TPOT >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] 1.00 0.00 13000.00 13000.00 >>-9999.00 -9999.00 >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] NICG AFIC HBOI HTOI >TPOI >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] 1.00 0.00 13000.00 13000.00 >>-9999.00 >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] NPWX WCOD HBWX HTWX >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] 1.00 SN -9999.00 -9999.00 >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] NCLD CLAM CLTP HCBF >HCTF >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] 2.00 8.00 -9999.00 100.00 >>-9999.00 >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] -9999.00 -9999.00 -9999.00 >>13000.00 >>[7642600] 020122/1519 [AF 1] <-----END INTERFACE OUTPUT-----> >> >> >>Like I said, I find some bulletins that look give latlons: >>UAPA01 KWBC 222058^M >>ARP PAL102 48N 180 2047 F350 MS58 320/085KT=^M >>ARP AAH441 2433N 15351W 2046 F400 MS62 214/075KT TB SMTH=^M >>ARP AAL253 2650N 14412W 2048 F260 MS32 283/025KT=^M >>ARP AAL31 2650N 14412W 2047 F320 MS45 275/045KT TB CONT LGT CHOP=^M >>ARP JAZ57 2332N 16135W 2048 F360 MS47 290/060KT=^M >>ARP KAL024 3801N 12642W 2050 F310 MS51 350/100KT=^M >>ARP PAL105 16N 130E 2050 F390 MS52 240/015KT=^M >>ARP AAL5 3038N 13340W 2044 F320 MS49 307/038KT TB CONT LGT=^M >> >> >>And some that are use waypoints: >>UBKS90 KWBC 222136^M >>^^KS 222136^M >>SLN UA /OV SLN270020/TM 2132/FL045/TP C172/TB OCNL LGT=^M >>^M >>^C^A^M >>505 ^M >>UBNC90 KWBC 222136^M >>^^NC 222136^M >>CLT UA /OV CLT314055/TM 2123/FL130/TP BE30/IC MOD RIME 160-130/RM^M >> CWSU ZTL=^M >>^M >>^C^A^M >>507 ^M >>UBNE90 KWBC 222136^M >>^^NE 222136^M >>MCK UA /OV HCT/TM 2132/FL310/TP BE40/TA M40/WV 23096/TB NEG=^M >>^M >>^C^A^M >>508 ^M >>UBWA90 KWBC 222136^M >>^^WA 222136^M >>EAT UA /OV EAT160015/TM 2131/FL065/TP PA44/TB MOD-SEV=^M >>^M >>^C^A^M >>516 ^M >>UBUS31 KWBC 222136^M >>PRCUS^M >>BFL UA /OV TSP-BFL/TM 2133/FL125/TP C310/SK TOPS 100 O/TSP MTNS/TB^M >> LGT IN OCNL 700 FPM UDDFS=^M >>CLT UA /OV CLT314055/TM 2123/FL130/TP BE30/IC MOD RIME 160-130/RM^M >> CWSU ZTL=^M >>EAT UA /OV EAT160015/TM 2131/FL065/TP PA44/TB MOD-SEV=^M >>GSH UA /OV GSH360010/TM 2127/FL045/TP C172/TA 02/TB SMTH /LGT BLO^M >> 035=^M >>MCK UA /OV HCT/TM 2132/FL310/TP BE40/TA M40/WV 23096/TB NEG=^M >>SLN UA /OV SLN270020/TM 2132/FL045/TP C172/TB OCNL LGT=^M >>TTW UA /OV 10 S TTW/TM 2132/FL048/TP BH06/RM HAZY OTRW CAVU=^M >> >> >> >>Steve Chiswell >>Unidata User Support >> >> >>>From: "Pauley, Dr. Pat" <address@hidden> >>>Organization: UCAR/Unidata >>>Keywords: 200201182251.g0IMp4x11213 >> >>>I am trying to figure out a problem with duplicate voice AIREPs >>>with position discrepancies in the Sout Pacific. The data I >>>look at are from FNMOC, who gets them from the Air Force. >>>Tinker AFB does the decode from waypoint names to latitude- >>>longitude locations. One of my colleagues at FNMOC has >>>been unsuccessful in getting the original AIREPs to compare >>>with the decoded reports. I just spoke with Bob Creasey >>>who found some of the reports in question in the ACARS >>>file that he gets from you folks. He uses the following to >>>get this data: >>> >>>UNIDATA Feed PQACT.conf line >>> >>>DDPLUS ^U[AB].* .... ([0-3][0-9])([0-2][0-9]) FILE >>>data/weather/(\1:yy)(\1:mm)\1\2.ACARS >>> >>>My question for you is, do you do receive the raw AIREPs >>>with named waypoints given for locations rather than the >>>translated latitude-longitude locations? (You would have to >>>do the location translation if you do!) If so, can I get some >>>of the raw data to compare with the data I get from FNMOC? >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Pat Pauley >>> >>> >>>Patricia M. 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