Since i'm having hardware issues on one of my machines, I decided to move some of the automted scripts to a different machine... when attempting to run the scripts on the newer machine using gempak 5.8.3a i receive segmenation faults that did not occur on the older machine using gemapak 5.8.2a. The first script I tried was a simple sfcntr for tmpf. http://weather.bgsu.edu/test/test.gif note that it will plot the temps but not contour them... and in looking through the email archives I note plymouth state had a similar problem in late october: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/cgi-bin/getfile?file=/content/support/help/MailArchives/gempak/msg04248.html so.. since problems were described with NCEP changes and that a new binary was needed, I redownloaded and installed (binary) gempak 5.8.3a 'assuming' that the updated sfcntr binary would be uploaded to the distros, but the same problem is occuring... please help. hope everyone had a happy thanksgiving :) --pat