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David, I'd recommend using dcgrib2, which uses the GEMPAK grib routines in $GEMPAK/source/gemlib/gb for decoding the grib bulletins. Dcgrib was the old program based on the unidata gribtonc grib decoder which does not handle many of the newgrids, levels, types- so is generally depricated. The dcgrib code uses the gribtonc src in $NAWIPS/unidata/ldmbridge/gribtonc_src, and there you will find in gdes.c, the hardcoded pole point values for nmc_104. The dcgrib2 code calculates the corner points directly in gbpolr.c, so the precision there is probably the difference in the values you see. In the case of GRIB representation of polar stereographic, the first point is provided, and for #104 is: -0.268000, -139.47500 which matches what you have for the dcgrib2 output. Steve Chiswell Unidata User Support >From: David Ovens <address@hidden> >Organization: UCAR/Unidata >Keywords: 200511181828.jAIIS97s009471 >Hello, > >I have some ETA 104 grids which have been converted to GEMPAK format >using dcgrib2 and dcgrib. Unfortunately, there are small >discrepancies in the navigation information between them. Do you know >which one is better? > >dcgrib2 version: > gd_gnav rnvblk = 2.000000 1.7815592E-19 1.000000 > 1.000000 147.0000 110.0000 -0.2680000 > -139.4750 32.74640 -14.59810 90.00000 > -105.0000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 > >dcgrib version: > gd_gnav rnvblk = 2.000000 1.7815592E-19 1.000000 > 1.000000 147.0000 110.0000 -0.2683270 > -139.4750 32.74730 -14.59930 90.00000 > -105.0000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 > >The entries of interest/discrepancy are 7-10 which correspond to these >locations: > xlatll = rnvblk (7) > xlonll = rnvblk (8) > xlatur = rnvblk (9) > xlonur = rnvblk (10) > >Some verification code I have is producing different enough values at >some sites because of this navigation discrepancy that I am in a >quandary about which dcgrib to use. > >Thanks for any insight. > >David >-- >David Ovens e-mail: address@hidden >Research Meteorologist phone: (206) 685-8108 >Dept of Atm. Sciences plan: Real-time MM5 forecasting for the >Box 351640 Pacific Northwest >University of Washington http://www.atmos.washington.edu/mm5rt >Seattle, WA 98195 Weather Graphics and Loops > http://www.atmos.washington.edu/~ovens/loops > -- NOTE: All email exchanges with Unidata User Support are recorded in the Unidata inquiry tracking system and then made publicly available through the web. If you do not want to have your interactions made available in this way, you must let us know in each email you send to us.