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Donna, Its ok to have several reports from the same "station" in a ship file (presumably the aircraft is at a different location 10 minutes later when that report is made). Your sfoutf extension sounds like a ship file...so I'm presuming that both are...but I probably need to look at ne of your input files: 99061000_pir.sfc and see the commands you used to create the surface file in sfcfil. If you could ftp the input file to ~gbuddy/incoming, I'll take a look. Steve Chiswell Unidata User Support >From: address@hidden >Organization: UCAR/Unidata >Keywords: 200007061910.e66JAaT23989 >We have a large number of GEMPAK files with pilot reports which we got from >the Aviation Weather Center. I can send you a sample file if you would like >to see it. We would like to combine these into several >large files so they are not as cumbersome to work with. Our strategy is >to create a new file with SFCFIL and move data into it with SFMOD. We >created the new file using a packing file I made up based on what information >I could gather about the data from AWC. I can send you the packing file if >you would like to see it. When we run SFMOD we get > > SFFILE Surface data file 99061000_pir.sfc > SFOUTF Output surface file nturb.shp > DATTIM Date/time /00 > AREA Data area dset > Parameters requested: SFFILE,SFOUTF,DATTIM,AREA. > GEMPAK-SFMOD>r > [SFMOD -4] Time 990610/0000 cannot be added. > Parameters requested: SFFILE,SFOUTF,DATTIM,AREA. > GEMPAK-SFMOD> > >Normally, when I see this error message I assume the output file is full but >since this is the first file we are processing, that cannot be the case. No >data are actually written to the output file. The >files from AWC contain a number of instances where the same station reports >several times an hour (e.g. a pilot reports moderate turbulence and 10 >minutes later reports severe turbulence - the AWC GEMPAK files have these >reports listed at the same time). I wonder if this is screwing up the >process or if it is something else. Any ideas on what could be wrong or >what we can do to work around it? > >Donna Tucker http://chinook.phsx.ukans.edu/tucker.html >address@hidden Department of Physics and Astronomy >(785) 864-4738 (new area code!) University of Kansas >(785) 864-5262 (fax) Lawrence, KS 66045-2151 > >