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Re: [conduit] NAM and RAP data (for model initiation)

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  • Subject: Re: [conduit] NAM and RAP data (for model initiation)
  • Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 12:10:54 -0500 (CDT)
>Greg et al.
>
>While I understand the desire for native model output and I wish we 
>could get all of it out to everyone, I don't believe you can initialize 
>a WRF run using WPS with it.  If there was a complete WRF restart or 
>init file's worth of native you could probably bypass WPS (like is done 
>in data assimilation cycling), but I don't think that is what Gerry or 
>others want to or are capable of doing.

The CAPS ARPS software, http://www.caps.ou.edu/ARPS, can handle the data with
no problems.  I've been using this data for over a year, via ftp, for a CAPS
project.

        Kevin W. Thomas
        Center for Analysis and Prediction of Storms
        University of Oklahoma
        Norman, Oklahoma
        Email:  address@hidden

>On 9/11/2012 4:33 PM, Greg Thompson wrote:
>>
>> Agreed here on 13km RAP model - native vertical coordinate with hydrometeors 
>> - all things as close to native as possible rather than interpolated either 
>> to pressure or eliminating the critical 3D variables.
>>
>> --Greg Thompson,   NCAR-RAL
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Gerry Creager wrote:
>>
>>> Becky
>>>
>>> Thanks for getting back to me. We are interested in the 12 km NAM and 13 km 
>>> (130 grid) RAP data. If that's possible, it'd be a help. When I first asked 
>>> on the LDM list, there was at least one other researcher interested in 
>>> higher resolution NAM and RAP. Somehow, I don't think I'd be the only user.
>>>
>>> Appreciate the help, and I fully understand about the delays for new 
>>> systems and schedules.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Gerry
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Rebecca Cosgrove <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> Gerry,
>>> I apologize for my delayed response.
>>> Right now we've got a limit on adding new data to CONDUIT until we upgrade 
>>> our system here at NCEP.  We're in the process of that upgrade right now.  
>>> I'll submit your request for additional NAM 12km fields to the User 
>>> Committee meeting on the 17th for consideration after the upgrade.  If 
>>> others in the group would like to see this data, I encourage you to chime 
>>> in and voice your desire for this as well.
>>>
>>> For the RAP, we do have 20km and 40km grids for the CONUS available in 
>>> CONDUIT.  Is there additional RAP data you are interested in?
>>>
>>> Becky Cosgrove
>>> NCEP Central Operations
>>>
>>>> CONDUIT folk
>>>>
>>>> We're working on a project and I'd configured a CONDUIT feed to acquire 
>>>> NAM 218 data. My plan was to kick off processing using a PQACT action when 
>>>> the last of the needed data arrived. Problem: We get the surface fields, 
>>>> which is not sufficient to initialize WRF. Of course, I can go download 
>>>> the data from NCEP (in fact, that's what we're now doing) but I'm 
>>>> wondering: Am I the only one looking for these data? Is there sufficient 
>>>> bandwidth to allow carrying the full NAM 12 km dataset? What's the chances 
>>>> of getting NAM (and, for that matter, RAP) added?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Gerry
>>>> OU/CIMMS/NSSL
>>>>
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